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Brian Jojade

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Re: Ideas for using performance mic also for talkback on stage
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2023, 01:22:14 PM »

There are lots of ways to accomplish this.  With a wireless mic, you either will have to route the audio back to the stage, or create a remote switching system.

Setting up a remote relay system would be pretty simple to do.  In that case, a failure of the connection to the stage would maintain normal FOH audio, and all of the audio remains near the same path.

More complex solutions involve a button that controls your mixer to mute/unmute properly.  This would mean less in line of the audio path and as well would mean a visual indication on the board as to what is happening with override available if needed.
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Re: Ideas for using performance mic also for talkback on stage
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2023, 09:07:20 AM »

I was given a challenge to to find a way to allow a musician to switch his performance mic into a private talk-back mic for the rest of the band (IEMs). Ideally a footswitch that diverts the mic output to another XLR out that can be routed into the stagebox, to the SQ, and be routed so it only appears in the IEM mix.

Has anyone done this or know a better way? The mics are all wireless, with receivers in a rack behind the stage but things can be moved to make things work.


If you have digital mixer, the performer can simply mute the mic just in the mains using a phone mounted on his mic stand.  I do this all the time.
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Re: Ideas for using performance mic also for talkback on stage
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2023, 11:26:04 AM »


If you have digital mixer, the performer can simply mute the mic just in the mains using a phone mounted on his mic stand.  I do this all the time.

Giving a performer access to the mix from a phone is asking for trouble....
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Re: Ideas for using performance mic also for talkback on stage
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2023, 12:27:43 PM »

Giving a performer access to the mix from a phone is asking for trouble....

The last few bands I mixed before retiring, the musos all mixed their own monitors on their phones so had access to the mix.  I thought this was SOP at the Lounge level in the digital age.  Sure made my job easier.
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Re: Ideas for using performance mic also for talkback on stage
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2023, 02:37:56 PM »

The last few bands I mixed before retiring, the musos all mixed their own monitors on their phones so had access to the mix.  I thought this was SOP at the Lounge level in the digital age.  Sure made my job easier.

Mixing IEMs from a phone is great. Mixing wedges from a phone is almost guaranteed to end up with feedback at some point.

Mixing FOH from a phone on the stage is horrid.

But, again, using a phone to do something critical such as turning on and off the main mic by a musician that is busy doing other things isn't something I'd want to deploy.
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Re: Ideas for using performance mic also for talkback on stage
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2023, 03:58:54 PM »

Regardless of the method used there are two things to remember

1. if at all possible, the switching method should be momentary to prevent the performer from leaving it on accidentally

2. The sound should change in their ears when they activate the talkback. Pan the vocal hard to the side or make it louder or whatever but make sure there is an obvious change so that the performer can clearly tell when they are in talkback vs performance. You may want to do the same on the other mixes as well as some players may not actually have that much vocal mic in their mix and so might not hear the talkback clearly.
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