Church and H.O.W. – Forums for HOW Sound and AV - Your Displayed Name Must Be Your Real Full Name To Post In The Church and HOW Forums > Church Sound
2 or 3 mixing desks into one amplifier
Thomas Le:
Ditto on why not just use a single mixer? Would imagine it being time intensive to rerun the wires every single week and check monitor mixes when everything is all there already, just need to recall your particular settings.
--- Quote from: George Friedman-Jimenez on November 20, 2022, 11:21:55 PM ---How about a simple old school TRS patchbay? You would just have to label it clearly and teach each crew how to move the 2 patch cable input plugs from the output jacks from one mixer over to the output jacks from another mixer, before turning on the amplifier. Lots of unused channels on a rackmount patchbay but patchbays are cheap.
--- End quote ---
This is probably a bad idea if they forget to mute the speaker outputs when they unplug and plug in the TRS patchbay. Welp there goes the drivers... People can be forgetful.
Caleb Dueck:
--- Quote from: Tim Weaver on November 20, 2022, 08:41:51 AM ---The better option is to get one of the very many DSP's on the market that can handle your input/output needs then make it a simple switcher. You can then recall presets (desk 1, desk 2, etc) via the front panel, or by whatever button widget that particular DSP can use. Most will support simple contact closures (spst momentary switches for example). This would allow you to simply press a button and recall the proper preset for the desk you are using.
--- End quote ---
This is the right way to do it. QSys, Xilica, A&H AHM even, Biamp Tesira, and others are all made exactly for this.
Lee Douglas:
APB-DynaSonics had a line called MixSwitch designed for exactly this. I can't get to their website to see if it's even a current product. The DSP solutions above are a better way to go, once programmed. The MixSwitch is very simple, but kind of spendy.
David Sturzenbecher:
--- Quote from: Caleb Dueck on November 24, 2022, 12:52:35 PM ---This is the right way to do it. QSys, Xilica, A&H AHM even, Biamp Tesira, and others are all made exactly for this.
--- End quote ---
The side benefit is that you can also use the system with… wait for it…. No mixer! Want to use a wireless mic without calling in any crew, easy! Turn on the radio for the cleaning staff? just hit the radio button on the wall controller. Automatically start background music at 8 am every morning? Done.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
David Aberdeen:
--- Quote from: Tim Weaver on November 20, 2022, 08:41:51 AM ---The better option is to get one of the very many DSP's on the market that can handle your input/output needs then make it a simple switcher. You can then recall presets (desk 1, desk 2, etc) via the front panel, or by whatever button widget that particular DSP can use. Most will support simple contact closures (spst momentary switches for example). This would allow you to simply press a button and recall the proper preset for the desk you are using.
--- End quote ---
Thanks, I'll look into DSPs, although we would need several, and with a similar budget we could probably upgrade to a digital desk and bypass all the issues (see below). We do have a DSP for management of the speakers, but it only has one input. :( I did build a couple of passive mixers this week, and they kind of work, but the sound quality is affected, so they aren't useable. I still have some fiddling to do and may end up turning them into active mixers.
As for sharing equipment, yes, that would be ideal and would save a lot of hassle, but there's history and politics involved there, and our main desk is analog. There are some tech wizzes who use all the settings and reconfigure things as they need it, and then there's the 90 year old operators who come in on Sunday morning and don't have the skills to get the system back to their 'normal'. The different systems are also connected to different streaming setups - again it would be great to share, but reconfiguring streaming keys is beyond some of the operators.
Thanks everyone for the info.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version