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Doug Fowler

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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #80 on: February 10, 2022, 11:47:48 AM »

I will SEE your digital w/o motorized faders, and RAISE you motorized faders w/o recallable head amps: The PM5D non-RH.

Introduced to me by Domonic from Sound Associates in Central Park. NY Grand Opera show. (1996-7?) Using it as orchestra sidecar. Put me off digital desks for some time..

Yeah, non-RH was a real head-scratcher.
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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2022, 12:31:21 PM »

I will SEE your digital w/o motorized faders, and RAISE you motorized faders w/o recallable head amps: The PM5D non-RH.

Introduced to me by Domonic from Sound Associates in Central Park. NY Grand Opera show. (1996-7?) Using it as orchestra sidecar. Put me off digital desks for some time..

Yeah, I well remember those. The whole argument was that you couldn't make Digitally Controlled mic pre's sound as good. But then they went ahead and made them and all the folks who said they didn't sound as good eventually caved because yeah, having the one non-recallable control be at the BEGINNING of the signal chain really didn't work.

It took a long time for me to discover that recallable head amps were not linear controls like their analog counterparts but really stepped controls with variable digital trim added and subtracted in order to maintain [or attempt to maintain] the granularity provided by true analog pots. And when I did find out I remember being somewhat alarmed because of how contentious the whole issue had been back in the early PM5d days. Of course now we routinely do fairly extreme digital "gain" controlling without really thinking much about it [gain tracking/copmpensation, etc.]
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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2022, 02:19:53 PM »

Another console that needed as many spares as a CADAC. I only ever saw one of them. It might have been with Reba. An entire day was used to get it working fully. Howard Page was the console tech on that one! It worked like a champ for the show.

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Or the ATI Paragon II - upon removal from the truck some re-assembly is required.
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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #83 on: February 10, 2022, 03:13:32 PM »

Or the ATI Paragon II - upon removal from the truck some re-assembly is required.

Imagine a rig with Paragon II desks and CyberLogic amps.
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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #84 on: February 10, 2022, 03:42:33 PM »

Imagine a rig with Paragon II desks and CyberLogic amps.

There's probably a John Lennon audio song parody in there, somewhere...

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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #85 on: February 10, 2022, 03:44:34 PM »

I will SEE your digital w/o motorized faders, and RAISE you motorized faders w/o recallable head amps: The PM5D non-RH.

Introduced to me by Domonic from Sound Associates in Central Park. NY Grand Opera show. (1996-7?) Using it as orchestra sidecar. Put me off digital desks for some time..

As I mentioned in one of my other posts, I raise you a digital console with no memories at all (except maybe the output graphics and FX), the LEM Ulitimix, basically had the same UI as a small analogue desk.
I doubt many (if any) used it as LEM were not exactly that well known and the concept was quite bizarre.
Rick Wakeman did use an analogue LEM mixer (Swing 32) and a LEM speaker system as his monitors for a while.
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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #86 on: February 11, 2022, 06:38:40 AM »

I will SEE your digital w/o motorized faders, and RAISE you motorized faders w/o recallable head amps: The PM5D non-RH.

Introduced to me by Domonic from Sound Associates in Central Park. NY Grand Opera show. (1996-7?) Using it as orchestra sidecar. Put me off digital desks for some time..
The PM5D was released in 2004.
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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #87 on: February 11, 2022, 07:26:15 AM »

The PM5D was released in 2004.

Wow. So much for my memory...

Makes sense. Did 7 years of NYGO gigs starting in '96-97. The early 5D appeared at the tail end of my run. (The year that a Whirlwind MASS connector pin insulator "went conductive" was a favorite).
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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #88 on: February 11, 2022, 01:17:18 PM »

Yeah, non-RH was a real head-scratcher.
Not so much for me, since it was kind of a crossover from the PM1D and DM2000, and I had used DM/01/02/03 consoles for years.
All those "recording" boards had analog non-programmable gains and there was a significant cost savings for the Non-RH which is why companies bought them...
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Re: The Old Digital Console Thread
« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2022, 04:52:49 PM »

Not so much for me, since it was kind of a crossover from the PM1D and DM2000, and I had used DM/01/02/03 consoles for years.
All those "recording" boards had analog non-programmable gains and there was a significant cost savings for the Non-RH which is why companies bought them...

They also came out first IIRC.

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