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Tim Weaver

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GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« on: January 09, 2022, 01:26:13 PM »

I have a girl on a KMS105 right now, but she's a soft singer and the PA/room isn't the most ideal situation, so those that have used them what is your opinion on the 105 vs the V7 in regards to gain before feedback. I've never used the V7 but keep hearing nothing but good about it.
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Re: GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2022, 09:36:19 AM »

I've never used the V7 but keep hearing nothing but good about it.
The installer for the new club I started working at a few months ago purchased three V7s.  Me and the other old soundguy were not familiar with them, so we brought in our own 58s for a while.  But, we've added some acoustic panels over the stage and had more time to work on the monitors with the V7s, and now I am very happy with them.  We've had quite a few performers say how much they like the stage sound in the club too.  The club features plenty of Bluegrass, Americana and Blues Rock. 

My own personal vocal mic selection will remain Senn e935/e945, but I would not turn up my nose at an SE mic. For the price, I suggest that you pick one up and give it a try.  They have a nice heft to them, and the red foam under the windscreen looks pretty cool too.  Oh, and they will fit in a Shure mic clip.  I don't have any experience with the Neuman.
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Re: GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2022, 11:49:43 AM »

Yeah I'm thinking that's what is gonna happen.

I am historically a curmudgeonly old soundguy and only use 58's. This is for the youth band though so I'm trying out some of the other mics we have. Somebody that was here before me bought 1 copy of several different mics. Senn 935, Heil PR35, KMS105, and a couple others. It at least keeps it interesting to audition mics in a non critical environment. I guess it's my turn to test drive the V7.
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Re: GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2022, 01:00:10 PM »

I'd expect the e935 to work well - they've been great for me.

If you're willing to spend the cash, the e965 is an upgrade in terms of sound, and the super-cardioid pattern works well on loud stages.

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Re: GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2022, 08:47:13 PM »

Audix VX-5 at $249 retail is tough to beat.  Good gain before feedback.
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Re: GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2022, 01:27:34 PM »

GBF @ test-position, or GBF real-world? A singer/songwriter at a piano, or a vocalist at a stand is one thing. As soon as a mic becomes handheld wildcards get introduced. Experience has demonstrated to me if you cannot rapidly get things in the 90th percentile with a 58, other things are afoot (i.e. the mic ain't the real problem). That said, my experiences with the SE7 capsule on RF have been positive, especially for singers who choke/cup the mic.
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Re: GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2022, 04:17:13 PM »

Hi Tim, 

    I haven't used the SE V7.
My experience with the KMS105 is that it's well behaved and sounds very good.
Am guessing you've already asked the Talent for more signal in the mic.
In addition to SM58s, B58s, E935s, Heil PR35s, EV 767s,
I have one Shure KSM8 and want more.  My experience is excellent GBF, and
I really, really like the sound of this mic.  If I can get away with the size, it's now
my podium mic of choice with talkers/singers on and way off the mic.
    Definitely worth borrowing and trying.

Thanks and good health,  Weogo
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Re: GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2022, 06:57:08 PM »

Hi Tim, 

    I haven't used the SE V7.
My experience with the KMS105 is that it's well behaved and sounds very good.
Am guessing you've already asked the Talent for more signal in the mic.
In addition to SM58s, B58s, E935s, Heil PR35s, EV 767s,
I have one Shure KSM8 and want more.  My experience is excellent GBF, and
I really, really like the sound of this mic.  If I can get away with the size, it's now
my podium mic of choice with talkers/singers on and way off the mic.
    Definitely worth borrowing and trying.

Thanks and good health,  Weogo

That would be the next step I think. I'm really just curious about the V7. Just want to see if the hype is real. It's certainly cheap enough to audition, but the KSM8 is something I would borrow to test drive first.....
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Re: GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2022, 03:28:27 AM »

105 is nice, but it's quite "open", so it captures a lot of room.
Perfect for people singing and playing acoustic guitar, not something I use on a loud stage unless the talent brings their own.
Never tried the V7.
Own a few KSM8, it's over and underrated IMHO.
I think the whole "lack of proximity" that Shure claims is overrated, but not a big deal.
I also think it's SQ is a bit under-rated, some people doesn't like it, I think it's pretty good.
It also seems to handle loud cymbal wash pretty good. Did a tour with a second lead singer position on the drum riser where the lead singer could walk up and sing when he wanted. I found surprisingly little cymbal wash in the mic and could compress/EQ its quite easily.
(Perfect example of a position where I wouldn't use a KMS105)
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Re: GBF: SE V7 vs Neumann KMS105
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2022, 05:22:25 PM »

That would be the next step I think. I'm really just curious about the V7. Just want to see if the hype is real. It's certainly cheap enough to audition, but the KSM8 is something I would borrow to test drive first.....

I'm a fan of the sE V7 mics (have both wired handhelds and Shure-compatible wireless capsules) but wouldn't dare compare it to a mic costing 4 or 5 times as much.

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