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Scott Wynne

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ultra low sub sound
« on: July 31, 2021, 12:17:02 PM »

I have seen several band lives (Chevelle and Alter Bridge specifically) that invoke a really low "something", very sparingly in their show. Low enough in frequency to shake the venue. Does anyone know what that is? It is not kick, bass guitar, etc.  I is so low, it is not even a note, but when unleashed, your body shakes.

I want it!!! Probably can't afford it.

Thanks.
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Re: ultra low sub sound
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2021, 02:24:32 PM »

I have seen several band lives (Chevelle and Alter Bridge specifically) that invoke a really low "something", very sparingly in their show. Low enough in frequency to shake the venue. Does anyone know what that is? It is not kick, bass guitar, etc.  I is so low, it is not even a note, but when unleashed, your body shakes.

I want it!!! Probably can't afford it.

Thanks.

Could be an 808. It's an old but effective, uh, effect.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_TR-808
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Re: ultra low sub sound
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2021, 05:19:53 PM »

Might also be a high bit rate, high sample rate kick drum sample pitched down low, might be a sine wave gated on and off. All kinds of ways to generate that sort of thing and to trigger them. Just depends on what you want to achieve. Playing with a DAW and a sine wave generator can be cheap and informative. The afford it part comes when you look to how many and what kind of subwoofers will reproduce that at the levels desired.

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Re: ultra low sub sound
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2021, 06:34:18 PM »

I think the bigger challenge will be acquiring enough subs to have the " effect " have the effect you want.
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Re: ultra low sub sound
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2021, 07:06:31 PM »

There are ways to layer a freq sweep that dives down into a kick sample or an 808 sample. Essentially you would need to create or find one of those samples and trigger it somehow.


But yeah, bring more subs.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2021, 09:56:40 AM by Tim Weaver »
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Re: ultra low sub sound
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2021, 07:08:36 PM »

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Re: ultra low sub sound
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2021, 07:44:04 PM »

I think the bigger challenge will be acquiring enough subs to have the " effect " have the effect you want.

Or the right subs....

Meyer VLFC's come to mind. Not cheap though  :o
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Re: ultra low sub sound
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2021, 08:28:39 PM »

I have seen several band lives (Chevelle and Alter Bridge specifically) that invoke a really low "something", very sparingly in their show. Low enough in frequency to shake the venue. Does anyone know what that is? It is not kick, bass guitar, etc.  I is so low, it is not even a note, but when unleashed, your body shakes.

I want it!!! Probably can't afford it.

Thanks.

on A&H Dlives and Ilives  there's the hypabass plug in..It's an infra sub processor and yes you would need the proper subs to abuse it correctly.....it's for just that effect that you mentioned....


Ray
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Re: ultra low sub sound
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2021, 10:27:04 PM »

I thought this was going to be about the Mythbusters "brown note" episode.  LOL
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Re: ultra low sub sound
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2021, 03:48:49 AM »

I think the bigger challenge will be acquiring enough subs to have the " effect " have the effect you want.

You can bring as many subs as you like, but if they're ported (most are) and tuned above 40Hz, they'll never manage that effect - ported boxes produce very little sound below their tuning frequency.

That air-shudder/whole-world-is-moving stuff happens at/below about 40Hz IME, so start with subs that have enough LF extension to manage it, and then add more to produce the desired effect.

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