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Ike Zimbel

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Any experience with Bird analyzers?
« on: July 14, 2021, 09:53:32 AM »

Hi Gang,
Title says it all, but more detail...I'm looking to expand my capabilities for RF analysis as well as other aspects like cable and antenna tests...VNA, distance to fault etc. The Bird product line looks intriguing, but I've never encountered any of it in the wild.
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Re: Any experience with Bird analyzers?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2021, 03:57:22 PM »

Hi Gang,
Title says it all, but more detail...I'm looking to expand my capabilities for RF analysis as well as other aspects like cable and antenna tests...VNA, distance to fault etc. The Bird product line looks intriguing, but I've never encountered any of it in the wild.

Bird makes excellent signal analyzers. Are you looking for a full handheld or black box requiring a PC?

If you're looking at that tier of product, you may also want to look at:

Handhelds
Keysight (formally Agilent) Fieldfox
Anritsu VNA Master

Black box (USB and CAT5)
Keysight USB Anaylzers
Tektronics
Copper Mountain

All are true VNA's capable of doing S11, S21 and TDR measurements as well as classic spectrum analysis (as an option). These OEM's generally have B stock sales during the course of the year or their on eBay stores.
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Rui Lisboa

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Re: Any experience with Bird analyzers?
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2021, 07:43:40 AM »

I've been using Siglent's SVA1015 for vector signal analysis after much praise on it's price/benefit relation in EEV blog and others. It's a bench apparatus. Not heavy but certainly not convenient enough for some occasions.
Unfortunately time domain reflectometry demands a separate costly license after 100 hours of usage and it's not as intuitive to do distance to fault as in other analysers which have this better laid out.
For portable RF and scalar analysis I've been using a Owon HSA. It serves me well and it's precise enough for my tasks. Very cheap unit.
I've also been carrying a pocket VNA for years that I've used extensively and it has managed to help me in several occasions. I've done distance to fault calculations that have been useful identifying open/shorts in installations. Certainly not benchmark results but enough to prevent failure.
I recognise these are not the best tools in the trade but they have been a great help so far.
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Re: Any experience with Bird analyzers?
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2021, 03:08:57 PM »

I've been using Siglent's SVA1015 for vector signal analysis after much praise on it's price/benefit relation in EEV blog and others. It's a bench apparatus. Not heavy but certainly not convenient enough for some occasions.
Unfortunately time domain reflectometry demands a separate costly license after 100 hours of usage and it's not as intuitive to do as distance to fault as in other analysers which have this better laid out.
For portable RF and scalar analysis I've been using a Owon HSA. It serves me well and it's precise enough for my tasks. Very cheap unit.
I've also been carrying a pocket VNA for years that I've used extensively and it has managed to help me in several occasions. I've done distance to fault calculations that have been useful identifying open/shorts in installations. Certainly not benchmark results but enough to prevent failure.
I recognise these are not the best tools in the trade but they have been a great help so far.
Thanks Rui and Henry, appreciate the input. Anyone else?
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Re: Any experience with Bird analyzers?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2021, 03:41:33 PM »

{...} I've also been carrying a pocket VNA for years that I've used extensively and it has managed to help me in several occasions. {...}

I picked one of those up a few years ago and never quite got around to actually learning it (although it's small enough that it's accompanied me to a lot of A2 gigs anyway). Glad to heat it's not total junk!

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