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Dave Guilford:
Using SRX725 boxes and absolutely love them - volume and quality is spot on for where I want to be. Sometimes I bring out 4, but most of the time just use 2.  However - the ones I have don’t have the fly track so they’re ground stacked of course and that’s solid for me.  Until now.

About to take delivery of a small mobile stage that’s only rated to fly 250lbs per side.  I’d like to clean up sight lines and so I’m looking to fly some PA.

Long story short (details will be posted if relevant to responses here) , I don’t want to hang speakers that are more than 24-36” tall, so I’m probably looking at 1x15” or similar. 

I need speakers that get LOUD and small.  Bonus points if used ones are cheap.  Passive is almost certainly preferred.

Current contenders are
SM80 , but way too expensive for now.
SRX815 , but will they be loud enough?
QRX212 , but never used them and not sure they’re “short” enough.
VRX / JFL type array , but weight adds up.

Any other speakers that get surprisingly loud with a relatively small size?  What else should I consider?

Riley Casey:
Old school solution would be to find some EV DeltaMax boxes with the fly fittings. Stupid loud for their size and weight. They would require bi-amping. Aside from the usual admonition about always buying a manufacturers engineered solution for rigging anything the SRX725s are nothing more than a rework of the old JBL Concert 4800 series  and those were all riggable boxes and much heavier than the SRX. Adding pan fittings and back brackets to the SRX could be a viable solution.

Alex Cheng:
Are Martin CDD15s an option? On paper they're a couple dB quieter, but in practice those numbers can't be directly compared of course. Horn is rotatable, so you could hang them sideways (26x17 in, 57 lbs). I haven't personally heard the 15s, but the 12s are fantastic.

Mike Monte:

--- Quote from: Dave Guilford on April 25, 2021, 10:03:15 am ---Using SRX725 boxes and absolutely love them - volume and quality is spot on for where I want to be. Sometimes I bring out 4, but most of the time just use 2.  However - the ones I have don’t have the fly track so they’re ground stacked of course and that’s solid for me.  Until now.

About to take delivery of a small mobile stage that’s only rated to fly 250lbs per side.  I’d like to clean up sight lines and so I’m looking to fly some PA.

Long story short (details will be posted if relevant to responses here) , I don’t want to hang speakers that are more than 24-36” tall, so I’m probably looking at 1x15” or similar. 

I need speakers that get LOUD and small.  Bonus points if used ones are cheap.  Passive is almost certainly preferred.

Current contenders are
SM80 , but way too expensive for now.
SRX815 , but will they be loud enough?
QRX212 , but never used them and not sure they’re “short” enough.
VRX / JFL type array , but weight adds up.

Any other speakers that get surprisingly loud with a relatively small size?  What else should I consider?

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Loud is a relative term, however, I have been very happy with my Yorkville TX4 https://yorkville.com/legacy/product/tx4/ rigs.  Passive/old school, fits your size/weight requirements, processor managed (route'n go with very little tweaking), loud....well....  (I think they're damn-loud for the small/local festivals that I do).

Look around as they turn-up on the used marked at times.

If your looking for new, Yorkville has an updated series (somewhat similar to the discontinued TX line) VTC N4 https://www.directproaudio.com/vtc-pro-audio-n4-15-2-way-high-output-full-range-speaker/  which is also processor controlled.


Doug Fowler:

--- Quote from: Mike Monte on April 25, 2021, 01:02:45 pm ---Loud is a relative term, however, I have been very happy with my Yorkville TX4 https://yorkville.com/legacy/product/tx4/ rigs.  Passive/old school, fits your size/weight requirements, processor managed (route'n go with very little tweaking), loud....well....  (I think they're damn-loud for the small/local festivals that I do).

Look around as they turn-up on the used marked at times.

If your looking for new, Yorkville has an updated series (somewhat similar to the discontinued TX line) VTC N4 https://www.directproaudio.com/vtc-pro-audio-n4-15-2-way-high-output-full-range-speaker/  which is also processor controlled.

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Riley's Deltamax solution is a good one if you can find it.   TX4 was really popular on the LAB in the 90s, pretty much a poor man's Deltamax.  Quality build, quality components, factory fly things.  Checks a lot of boxes, and also had an analog controller. Dave Lowum (where are you Dave) built/helped build a smallish regional company based on TX4s in the Chicago area. I last saw Dave in lower Wisconsin at that famous sausage joint right off the interstate in 1999-2000 I guess.  The sausage joint had a robust small venue attached.  2x TX4 per side, plenty loud, etc.  I imagine TX4 is still in use all over Canada.

I have used QRX-212 quite a bit, passive mode.  They're robust enough to use as side fills on larger stages than you will be fielding.  They're fine for FOH, normally when I was using them stacked on JBL 728s.  They have rigging points and the HF rotates, so you could fly them sideways for sight lines.  I imagine they're even better biamped.   If there are FIR presets for these (Dynacord), that should really make you grin.

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