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Helge A Bentsen

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External hard drive
« on: April 16, 2021, 08:28:47 am »

I need a external hard drive for recording multitrack directly on for an upcoming session.
My MacBook doesn't have enough HDD space for this, we're talking about 40 tracks@48K for a couple of days (rehearsals + show).
Looking for something Thunderbolt 3 or USB-C powered, SSD preferably.

Any ideas?
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2021, 08:41:26 am »

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-envoy-pro-ex-thunderbolt-3

I use these. I actually run them as main boot drives on some machines as they are faster than the internal drives. Great way to breathe life into an iMac without cracking it open.
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2021, 08:41:58 am »

[I use a Samsung T5 500GB for this. Very compact (smaller than a credit card IIRC) and fast enough to handle the data throughput.

You'll need to do the maths on how much storage you'll need, or transfer to a large/slow drive periodically.

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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2021, 09:25:13 am »

I need a external hard drive for recording multitrack directly on for an upcoming session.
My MacBook doesn't have enough HDD space for this, we're talking about 40 tracks@48K for a couple of days (rehearsals + show).
Looking for something Thunderbolt 3 or USB-C powered, SSD preferably.

Any ideas?

Maybe something from Glyph if you are going to be recording directly to it..

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1251174-REG/glyph_technologies_bbpr3000_3tb_blackbox_pro_rugged.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6-SDBhCMARIsAGbI7Uj-KcwbW0ENpy2ulmE_tG27EE7zmYWGElfKmuKtEYIhQTkGIOJBe38aAlrGEALw_wcB

Also one of the bigger issues that I have had are using usbc adaptors that use the USB2 chipset.. If the machine and drive do not have USBC use a USBC to Thunderbolt adaptor for better transfer speeds.
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2021, 10:38:40 am »

I need a external hard drive for recording multitrack directly on for an upcoming session.
My MacBook doesn't have enough HDD space for this, we're talking about 40 tracks@48K for a couple of days (rehearsals + show).
Looking for something Thunderbolt 3 or USB-C powered, SSD preferably.

Any ideas?

Years ago I needed an HD as fast as I could get it on a Mac Pro desktop running multiple trax. I went with an empty dual bay external thunderbolt drive, bought 2 SSD drives and configured them in a RAID 0 array. It was fast. Never choked on me and I ran it for 2 or 3 years. I also got a cheap 2 TB external drive for a backup. You should always have backup and drives are obscenely cheap.
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2021, 12:22:20 pm »

Samsung T5 also.  Records multi-track VIDEO with no problems.  I have several 1TB and a 2TB.  Not too expensive.
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2021, 01:18:18 pm »

I have been using SanDisk Extreme Pro for exactly what you stated and also recording video from an ATEM ISO.

They have been flawless.
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2021, 01:47:44 pm »

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-envoy-pro-ex-thunderbolt-3

I use these. I actually run them as main boot drives on some machines as they are faster than the internal drives. Great way to breathe life into an iMac without cracking it open.

FWIW, the Department Chair back at school insisted his Recording students buy the OWC external drive(s). Too many others had failures, in his experience.

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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2021, 02:18:04 pm »

Samsung T5.  Will do 4k 60FPS video so the audio needs should be easy. 
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2021, 02:31:38 pm »

Thanks :)
Looking into Samsung T5, they're reasonable priced and available from my local computer store.
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2021, 11:34:50 pm »

FWIW, the Department Chair back at school insisted his Recording students buy the OWC external drive(s). Too many others had failures, in his experience.

Dave

We've sold a few thousand OWC drives over the years.  While there was a batch of their Neptune drives that had a higher than normal failure rate, their pro drives have been extremely rock solid. Very few failures that we've seen.
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2021, 02:36:52 am »

I need a external hard drive for recording multitrack directly on for an upcoming session.
My MacBook doesn't have enough HDD space for this, we're talking about 40 tracks@48K for a couple of days (rehearsals + show).
Looking for something Thunderbolt 3 or USB-C powered, SSD preferably.

Any ideas?

You should be able to calculate space needs per session based on channel count.  If youíve got that internal consider recording internally and then moving sessions off to usb drives as needed.  That way an accidental cable bump wonít wreck your recording.  When you copy off to external put it on two (or more) disks.

If you must record to external then gaff the cable to the computer so it canít get accidentally unplugged.
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2021, 04:05:59 pm »

You should be able to calculate space needs per session based on channel count.  If youíve got that internal consider recording internally and then moving sessions off to usb drives as needed.  That way an accidental cable bump wonít wreck your recording.  When you copy off to external put it on two (or more) disks.

If you must record to external then gaff the cable to the computer so it canít get accidentally unplugged.

This is how I handle live recording.  Usually end up with 40-50GB of audio and transfer it off the internal SSD to external drive at end of night.
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Re: External hard drive
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2021, 06:17:00 pm »

Helge - there's no reason to pay for an SSD drive for recording - rotational drives have the throughput to easily do 40 tracks 2 48K. I'd also second OWC as they have multiple bus-powered USB-C drives; I replaced my aging Firewire Glyph drives with a G-TECH 4TB USB-C drive that's externally powered. Better to have power for one less thing to go wrong on recording. Once SSD prices come down, I'll look at them, but I've had zero problems with multitrack recording or playback, either from my new MacBook Pro or from my 2013 MBP using USB 3.0.

Regardless of what you get, I'd recommend subscribing to Backblaze.com - for one price per month it backs up your Mac and any and all drives you have, attached or not (yes you have to attach them if you want them backed up at some point, it's not wizardry). I had my old 4TB Western Digital drive die on me, and Backblaze shipped me a transfer disk in a few days. Copied the files to the new drive, and sent it back - zero cost.
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