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Bob Faulkner

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RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« on: April 15, 2021, 09:59:37 pm »

I'm back to looking for a single 18" sub for smaller events. Something to work with my RCF NX45a cabinets.  I'm actually needing just a single sub.

Would like to stick with RCF.  Was considering the 8004-as or 9004-as.  My experience with RCF has been very positive.  In addition to the NX45a cabinets, I use NXL-23A for FOH (flying) with HDL-10A for the stage dwellers.

A few years ago, I picked up a JBL PRX718XLF to handle smaller events.  The sub did great with 30hz to 50hz, but severely lacked any punch.  It was very disappointing to use; however, I did use it as a cardiod for a pair of SRX728 subs... the band said it worked great.  As a FOH sub for smaller events, the JBL just didn't "hit" well.  End up selling it to a DJ. 

Looking to see if anyone has experience with either the 8004-as or 9004-as.  I'm trying to avoid another PRX718XLF issue.  The sub would be used for live music... blues, jazz, occasional rock and would need to cover about 100 people. 


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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2021, 11:28:33 pm »

Bob, I'm not sure about the RCF subs you mentioned but I use JTR captivator 212p with my NX-45s and they work great together. That said, there is no highpass out on the JTR so you would need an external crossover.
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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2021, 05:26:17 am »

8004 is an excellent sub.

9004 is billed as an upgrade but I have never even seen one in the flesh.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2021, 06:56:28 am »

Thanks for the responses.

hmmm... not sure how I missed this.   :o The 9004 and 8004 are essentially the same speaker.  The 9004 has RDNET, the 8004 does not.   

My apologies. 

At this point, I do not need network enabled speakers.

JTR is still on my list, but would like to pursue the RCF line first.  Anyone use an 8004 as the only sub for an event?   
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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2021, 10:05:07 am »

Thanks for the responses.

hmmm... not sure how I missed this.   :o The 9004 and 8004 are essentially the same speaker.  The 9004 has RDNET, the 8004 does not.   

My apologies. 

At this point, I do not need network enabled speakers.

JTR is still on my list, but would like to pursue the RCF line first.  Anyone use an 8004 as the only sub for an event?

I have a pair of yorkville ls801pb's' that are not the sub the RCF's are but are similar in output spl. I've used one outside with 2 smaller tops for a sit down outside show and in a building with larger tops show. Both fun low key shows. The outside one was going well but was quickly rained out and the inside show was fine for the small turn out.  The real question I guess would be what size venue/cap person show are you doing? 1 sub for 75 or so "true dancers on the floor" may be fine depending on music but you can only get so much with one sub. What kind of shows were you thinking of doing?

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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2021, 10:18:13 am »

I have a pair of yorkville ls801pb's' that are not the sub the RCF's are but are similar in output spl. I've used one outside with 2 smaller tops for a sit down outside show and in a building with larger tops show. Both fun low key shows. The outside one was going well but was quickly rained out and the inside show was fine for the small turn out.  The real question I guess would be what size venue/cap person show are you doing? 1 sub for 75 or so "true dancers on the floor" may be fine depending on music but you can only get so much with one sub. What kind of shows were you thinking of doing?

Douglas R. Allen

The events where it would be mostly used are outdoor bars/venues, any place that has a about 100 person capacity.  Would be used 100% of the time for live sound (blues, country, moderate rock, etc...) - no EDM or anything like that.  Volume levels would not need to be too high.  It's the same places I used the PRX718 at (and was disappointed each time).  Not looking to blow people away, just something that fits well. 

Since the selling of the PRX718, I've been using one of my SRX728S subs with a 1600 watts amp.  It's overkill for the smaller events (power and size).
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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2021, 10:28:14 am »

Thanks for the responses.

hmmm... not sure how I missed this.   :o The 9004 and 8004 are essentially the same speaker.  The 9004 has RDNET, the 8004 does not.   


There are a few other differences - a marginal increase in power, slightly different HPF/LPF frequencies, a flared vent vs straight etc. I suspect a ferrite driver in the 8004 too, as I can't see them putting neo in and not saying so in the marketing materials.
If you haven't already, I'd suggest downloading EASE GLL Viewer and looking at the freq responses in that rather than just the graphs shown on the spec sheets, you get to see a bit more about how the various processing options play out.
FWIW,
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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2021, 03:48:19 pm »

One BIG difference: The 9004 is more expensive to buy, and it requires an expensive front lid with castors, while the 8004 uses normal ones on the back. The cover is more expensive too.

I own the 8004 and have used them hundreds of time outside with HD and TT tops, and think it's a great sub. It's a pro sounding sub.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2021, 11:12:07 pm »

One BIG difference: The 9004 is more expensive to buy, and it requires an expensive front lid with castors, while the 8004 uses normal ones on the back. The cover is more expensive too.

I own the 8004 and have used them hundreds of time outside with HD and TT tops, and think it's a great sub. It's a pro sounding sub.

The 9004 with the caster board actually protects the grille and you can truck pack 2 high if you need too.

I agree the 8004 is a great sub, I think the 9004 is better and worth the extra money.
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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2021, 07:54:27 am »

Another thing that might be important:

The 9004 doesn't have an built in crossover. It does have high- and lowpass filters. So you have to use a top with highpass filters, or an external crossover. The 8004 has a 90 or 120 Hz crossover.

I considered trading my 8004's for 9004's in 2019, but for me it wasn't worth it.
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