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Bob Faulkner

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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2021, 08:14:37 am »

Thanks again for the responses.

Looks like I'll probably be leaning toward the 8004 (though, JRT was on my list).  The 9004 does offer more things, but it does cost a lot more (especially for network capabilities, which I would probably not use... especially for how/where the sub would be used).

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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2021, 11:59:28 am »

You might want to take a look at the RCF SUB 8003-AS II.  It's one step down in their line-up from the 8004, but it was refreshed a while back and has the newer input panel.  It's smaller than the 8004, so it might be a better fit for your type of events.  Of course, it has less output too, but per RCF's website the 8003 II is 135dB versus 136 for the 8004.  The real world performance difference is probably greater than that though.
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Bob Faulkner

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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2021, 06:16:08 pm »

You might want to take a look at the RCF SUB 8003-AS II.  It's one step down in their line-up from the 8004, but it was refreshed a while back and has the newer input panel.  It's smaller than the 8004, so it might be a better fit for your type of events.  Of course, it has less output too, but per RCF's website the 8003 II is 135dB versus 136 for the 8004.  The real world performance difference is probably greater than that though.
Thanks.  Will do.
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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2021, 04:24:41 pm »

Bob, I'm not sure about the RCF subs you mentioned but I use JTR captivator 212p with my NX-45s and they work great together. That said, there is no highpass out on the JTR so you would need an external crossover.

I use the SUB-8004 with the NXL-44A on top, per side, in rooms up to 500 people for not only my own 80s band, but also many other rock and country acts. Very solid performance from this rig.
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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2021, 06:29:08 am »

I use the SUB-8004 with the NXL-44A on top, per side, in rooms up to 500 people for not only my own 80s band, but also many other rock and country acts. Very solid performance from this rig.

I looked at that system 4 years ago or so. Although I went a different solution to go as light as possible how is it putting the tops on the sub pole? A one person job? I bet it sounds great regardless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqKfExViupo

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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2021, 02:46:17 pm »

Thanks for the responses.

hmmm... not sure how I missed this.   :o The 9004 and 8004 are essentially the same speaker.  The 9004 has RDNET, the 8004 does not.   

My apologies. 

At this point, I do not need network enabled speakers.

JTR is still on my list, but would like to pursue the RCF line first.  Anyone use an 8004 as the only sub for an event?

Bob

I have no experience with any rcf speakers but my brother is looking into a very similar setup. Nx-32 over 708 or 8004. They demoed a 708 and liked what he heard. He might go with the 8004. Check out this video. Might be what you are looking for. https://youtu.be/u1_W_KsVlQ4

Ive done some research and seems no way 8004/9004 are the same. The 708s ,8003,8004 use different flavored ceramic magnet drivers. 9007 has neo magnet 21 drivers so I highly suspect 9004 also use neo drivers different sized amp modules especially priced significantly.
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2021, 11:05:45 pm »

I purchased a pair of the 8003's for smaller gigs, mainly indoor bar gigs (300-400 size rooms) and they are amazing.  Other bands/providers will have 4 KW181's or 4 SRX818's and I think my 2 RCF 8003's perform better for half the real estate.  I'm sure the specs are less than the 8004's and 9004's, and I also believe the cabinet design is slightly different.  If I remember correctly, the 8004's have the front grill that is flat and matched the rest of the higher lineup.  The 8003's have the same front look as the lower RCF line.

I've been running them with some DSR112's, and they outrun them easily.  I understand there is a huge gap/difference in the Nx45a's and the DSR's, so I think the NX45's would match up just fine.

Just my $.02.

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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2021, 07:16:00 pm »

The NX45 will outrun the 8004's with certain musicstyles,but the 8004's will not start producing horible distortion noises. And i have never had one quit on me.
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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2021, 08:55:35 pm »

I use the SUB-8004 with the NXL-44A on top, per side, in rooms up to 500 people for not only my own 80s band, but also many other rock and country acts. Very solid performance from this rig.
Good info!

Bob

I have no experience with any rcf speakers but my brother is looking into a very similar setup. Nx-32 over 708 or 8004. They demoed a 708 and liked what he heard. He might go with the 8004. Check out this video. Might be what you are looking for. https://youtu.be/u1_W_KsVlQ4

Ive done some research and seems no way 8004/9004 are the same. The 708s ,8003,8004 use different flavored ceramic magnet drivers. 9007 has neo magnet 21 drivers so I highly suspect 9004 also use neo drivers different sized amp modules especially priced significantly.

Thanks for the link.  Yes, the 8004 and 9004 are somewhat different.  The 9004 has things I will never use.  I'm leaning toward the 8004. 

The NX45 will outrun the 8004's with certain musicstyles,but the 8004's will not start producing horible distortion noises. And i have never had one quit on me.

Definitely!  The shows where I would be using the 8004 (a single 8004) would not require the NX45 speakers to be driven hard.  Most music would be (live) blues, country, and maybe rock... sometimes. 
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Re: RCF 8004as or 9004-as
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2021, 11:51:05 pm »

I have a pair of yorkville ls801pb's' that are not the sub the RCF's are but are similar in output spl. I've used one outside with 2 smaller tops for a sit down outside show and in a building with larger tops show. Both fun low key shows. The outside one was going well but was quickly rained out and the inside show was fine for the small turn out.  The real question I guess would be what size venue/cap person show are you doing? 1 sub for 75 or so "true dancers on the floor" may be fine depending on music but you can only get so much with one sub. What kind of shows were you thinking of doing?

Douglas R. Allen


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