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Ed Taylor:
I know it's an old thread but worth the revisit as i just last week did a short notice fill-in at a smaller-mid sized church that was short a guitar player.

Rehearsal, I walked back to the sound desk and asked the guy on faders if I could grab an extra DI box...he looked at me and smiled and said "What's a DI box?"
yep...they were in the much trouble.
the church also just recently upgraded to a pair of M32s..one for house, one for stream.

stream sound was bad, latency issues on top of that made the stream unwatchable.

last Fall, I had been called to mix for a church for a month until they could get a full time audio guy on staff...they had upgraded from analog to a shiny new Presonus 32sx.   and their one volunteer guy was totally lost.

Erik Jerde:

--- Quote from: Ed Taylor on June 11, 2021, 03:29:54 pm ---I know it's an old thread but worth the revisit as i just last week did a short notice fill-in at a smaller-mid sized church that was short a guitar player.

Rehearsal, I walked back to the sound desk and asked the guy on faders if I could grab an extra DI box...he looked at me and smiled and said "What's a DI box?"
yep...they were in the much trouble.
the church also just recently upgraded to a pair of M32s..one for house, one for stream.

stream sound was bad, latency issues on top of that made the stream unwatchable.

last Fall, I had been called to mix for a church for a month until they could get a full time audio guy on staff...they had upgraded from analog to a shiny new Presonus 32sx.   and their one volunteer guy was totally lost.

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Yeah, there's a church meeting evenings at my church.  I got them initially setup and then because I didn't have time to be their regular guy I hooked them up with another engineer to hold their hand and train their volunteers on the m32.  He was with them weekly for 2-3 months and now their on their own. 

I don't think that digital mixers are necessarily worse for untrained people than analog desks.  They just need to be very intentionally setup.  In fact with the ability to easily load a scene it's a lot easier to get back to a state that at one point was good than with analog desks.  I have fairly low skill level volunteers mixing at my personal church a couple times a month and with a little training up front they've done a very good job. 

Stephen Swaffer:

--- Quote from: Erik Jerde on June 11, 2021, 05:11:34 pm ---
I don't think that digital mixers are necessarily worse for untrained people than analog desks.  They just need to be very intentionally setup. In fact with the ability to easily load a scene it's a lot easier to get back to a state that at one point was good than with analog desks.

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To me this is a huge plus.  It took us a few weeks-but we finally established a culture that the "Main Service" scene is recalled before every service.  Makes it easy when a group wants to practice or whatever because we always start at the same place.  Of course, now that we have that culture established the SQ does it for me when they log in....

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