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[Alastair Breingan]

Hi all, we are a country hall that puts on live music, mainly folk to blues. We have 2 x K12.2 for use inside the Hall (18m x 9 timber building) which has worked well, but could sometimes use more bass.

We now have a grant to buy Subs and Tops for Outside concerts (in a 25m x 17m grassed area for 150 - 200 people).

We think we will stick with QSC (6 year warranty is good as we are remote) and  buy 2 x Ks118s, but we haven't had much experience matching Subs with Tops.
So we need advice on suitable tops. We could use the K12.2s or buy KW122 or KW153s.

The grant would cover either so the decision is mainly on sound vs weight, and equipment that would also be useful inside.
We heard the 153s with another sub and that definitely had enough power.
The smaller speakers presumably wont go as loud  but might get cleaner sound.
Any advice gratefully received
Thanks
Al

[Scott Holtzman]

Hi all, we are a country hall that puts on live music, mainly folk to blues. We have 2 x K12.2 for use inside the Hall (18m x 9 timber building) which has worked well, but could sometimes use more bass.

We now have a grant to buy Subs and Tops for Outside concerts (in a 25m x 17m grassed area for 150 - 200 people).

We think we will stick with QSC (6 year warranty is good as we are remote) and  buy 2 x Ks118s, but we haven't had much experience matching Subs with Tops.
So we need advice on suitable tops. We could use the K12.2s or buy KW122 or KW153s.

The grant would cover either so the decision is mainly on sound vs weight, and equipment that would also be useful inside.
We heard the 153s with another sub and that definitely had enough power.
The smaller speakers presumably wont go as loud  but might get cleaner sound.
Any advice gratefully received
Thanks
Al

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[Mal Brown]

I often run 153's over 181's, 1 or 2 subs per side depending on the gig. I use the QSC short extension poles.  I find it easy to deploy with 2 guys for the lift.The system wants a little EQ to tighten up the bass and not much else.  153's over 181's has been my goto small to medium rig for some time.  I like that rig a lot.

These days I would be taking a hard look at the 3 way Yamaha box DZR ?   If I can ever justify upgrading, that is on my short list of boxes to demo.

[Bob Stone]

Can you just get the KS118's and see how the K12.2's do with them first before getting new tops?

I have K12.2's and have used them with KW181's and it's a good match up, but I always want a little more low end so a KS118 with a smidge more output should be perfect.

If you want to go louder than that setup, you'll probably need to look beyond the QSC offerings.

[Jeff M Hague]

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If you already have 2 ks12.2 I would stick with those. That gives you the option of 4 matching tops if ever needed.
The ks118s are a good match for the ks12.2s and with the kind of music you are doing 2 of them may be plenty outdoors. Anything more like rock I think you'll find you need 4.

[Alastair Breingan]

Can you just get the KS118's and see how the K12.2's do with them first before getting new tops?

I have K12.2's and have used them with KW181's and it's a good match up, but I always want a little more low end so a KS118 with a smidge more output should be perfect.

If you want to go louder than that setup, you'll probably need to look beyond the QSC offerings.

That seems to be the advice I am getting (here and elsewhere) - thanks - we will try that first
Al

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