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[Tim McCulloch]

This is another product that is not intended for the professional market.  That's cool, I'm happy to accept it for what it is.  Right now there is still a need for 2 channel computer audio interfaces.  As someone pointed out, this would be a happy box to have for YooToob producers and webcasters - it's simple and appliance-level.

I think a firmware update with a way to 'unlock' advanced features would be lovely, but my guess is that 10% or fewer owners would ever use them.

[Nathan Riddle]

I can assure you that BT communications is not much of a load on a CPU.  If they can't accept a stream and allow bt control at the same time, it is because the bt radio they are using can't do it IMO.  I could tell for sure once someone takes some pictures under the hood .

I suspect that when the bt radio is placed in streaming mode, it can't operate with the send/receive characteristics it needs to do bt control.

I'm certainly a noob when it comes to BT specifications; but my anecdotal experience with BT has always been data or music not both (beyond the limited bi-directional music control) so it thought it was simply a BT thing not Behringer's fault or the radio they chose.

FWIW I bought one since they dropped the price to $230. Probably won't see the physical unit until January or February.

[Nathan Riddle]

This is not correct.

BT-audio and BT-control can be used simultaneously. Even better is that this can be on a single or separate devices if you want to.

Really? Okay thats neat because the quick start guide DOES NOT read that way.

Edit: I assumed when I read the quick start guide that it couldn't do both audio & control at the same time. And when reading the pairing steps it could be taken to sound like it can only pair to one type of source (Audio or Control) at a time and thus read my assumptions into the manual.

I stand corrected.

[Robert Lofgren]

Looks like a nice price drop in the US... $229

[Jay Marr]

Looks like a nice price drop in the US... $229

It's getting really tempting now.

[Dave Pluke]

Looks like a nice price drop in the US... $229

Well, heck, for that, it's worth a gamble.

Dave

EDIT:  preordered through Sweetwater. No advertised ETA at this point.

[Scott Bolt]

Looks like a nice price drop in the US... $229

Yes, I think it is quite a lot of mixer for that money!  Like I said, a trusty ZED 10fx is $330.  Put onto that perspective, it is a no-brainer in my book.

[Daniel Levi]

An update for the Flow 8, though I don't know if anyone has one yet.
https://community.musictribe.com/discussions/156693/310351/major-flow-8-update-now-live
The firmware update 11739 for FLOW 8
works with remote app FLOW MIX 1.2 and Windows ASIO/WDM driver version 5.0.


Firmware 11739 is introducing a new memory structure.
* Snapshots stored on the hardware will be deleted!
* Snapshots previously stored in the App’s SNAPSHOT LIBRARY can still be used.

This new FLOW Firmware version contains:
• New USB mode
1. Streaming/Recording (switches between 2x4 and 10x4 USB config)
2. Up to 4 channel USB playback (USB OUT 1/2, USB OUT 3/4)


• New routing options
1. USB 1/2 can be routed to CH 5/6
2. USB 3/4 can be routed to CH 7/8
3. USB 1/2 or USB 3/4 can be directly routed to MONITOR SEND 1/2 TRS output


• Option to stereo link MON1/2


• Option to change headphone output
1. MAIN-Mix, pre- or postfader
2. MON1/2-Mix, pre- or postfader


• Option to send FX to MAIN and/or MON buses


• Snapshot scope for selectively loading channel settings, effects, routing, MAIN- and MON-Mixes


• Fully parametric control of GAIN, FREQ and WIDTH in 4-band and 9-band EQs


• Option to transfer the current mixer state via MIDI Sysex


• Optional -10dbV output level for MAIN and MON outputs, e.g. when used with DSLR cameras


• Output delays 0…340 ms for time alignment in live sound or video production

.
All information in this document is subject to change without any further notice.


Update Process:
To update FLOW 8 to the latest firmware please use the SimplyPUT update tool. SimplyPUT is available
for Mac, Windows and Linux and can be downloaded from the FLOW 8 product page at behringer.com.
WINDOWS:
1. Please make sure you have installed the latest USB-Driver, which is available on the FLOW 8
product page!
2. Connect FLOW 8 to your computer using the USB Type B socket
3. Make sure your computer is connected to the internet
4. Launch Application
SimplyPUT will detect FLOW 8 and search for the latest firmware available on the server
SimplyPUT will always preselect the latest version available
5. Select UPDATE
SimplyPUT will start transferring the new firmware to the hardware using the installed USB-Driver
After a successful update, FLOW 8 will indicate the new Firmware-Version and reboot automatically

MAC:
1. Connect FLOW 8 to your computer using the USB Type B socket
2. Make sure your computer is connected to the internet
3. To launch application please use rightclick (CTRL+Click) and select Open.
Select Open on the upcoming pop up again
SimplyPUT will detect FLOW 8 and search for the latest firmware available on the server
SimplyPUT will always preselect the latest version available
4. Select OPEN
This will enable the DFU-Mode on the hardware.
Recognisable by a red display on the hardware showing the current installed Firmware-Version.
5. Select UPDATE
Simply Put will start flashing the new firmeware to the hardware
After a successful update FLOW 8 will indicate the new Firmware-Version and reboot automatically

[Alex Cheng]

An update for the Flow 8, though I don't know if anyone has one yet.
https://community.musictribe.com/discussions/156693/310351/major-flow-8-update-now-live
The firmware update 11739 for FLOW 8
works with remote app FLOW MIX 1.2 and Windows ASIO/WDM driver version 5.0.


Firmware 11739 is introducing a new memory structure.
* Snapshots stored on the hardware will be deleted!
* Snapshots previously stored in the App’s SNAPSHOT LIBRARY can still be used.

This new FLOW Firmware version contains:
• New USB mode
1. Streaming/Recording (switches between 2x4 and 10x4 USB config)
2. Up to 4 channel USB playback (USB OUT 1/2, USB OUT 3/4)


• New routing options
1. USB 1/2 can be routed to CH 5/6
2. USB 3/4 can be routed to CH 7/8
3. USB 1/2 or USB 3/4 can be directly routed to MONITOR SEND 1/2 TRS output


• Option to stereo link MON1/2


• Option to change headphone output
1. MAIN-Mix, pre- or postfader
2. MON1/2-Mix, pre- or postfader


• Option to send FX to MAIN and/or MON buses


• Snapshot scope for selectively loading channel settings, effects, routing, MAIN- and MON-Mixes


• Fully parametric control of GAIN, FREQ and WIDTH in 4-band and 9-band EQs


• Option to transfer the current mixer state via MIDI Sysex


• Optional -10dbV output level for MAIN and MON outputs, e.g. when used with DSLR cameras


• Output delays 0…340 ms for time alignment in live sound or video production

.
All information in this document is subject to change without any further notice.


Update Process:
To update FLOW 8 to the latest firmware please use the SimplyPUT update tool. SimplyPUT is available
for Mac, Windows and Linux and can be downloaded from the FLOW 8 product page at behringer.com.
WINDOWS:
1. Please make sure you have installed the latest USB-Driver, which is available on the FLOW 8
product page!
2. Connect FLOW 8 to your computer using the USB Type B socket
3. Make sure your computer is connected to the internet
4. Launch Application
SimplyPUT will detect FLOW 8 and search for the latest firmware available on the server
SimplyPUT will always preselect the latest version available
5. Select UPDATE
SimplyPUT will start transferring the new firmware to the hardware using the installed USB-Driver
After a successful update, FLOW 8 will indicate the new Firmware-Version and reboot automatically

MAC:
1. Connect FLOW 8 to your computer using the USB Type B socket
2. Make sure your computer is connected to the internet
3. To launch application please use rightclick (CTRL+Click) and select Open.
Select Open on the upcoming pop up again
SimplyPUT will detect FLOW 8 and search for the latest firmware available on the server
SimplyPUT will always preselect the latest version available
4. Select OPEN
This will enable the DFU-Mode on the hardware.
Recognisable by a red display on the hardware showing the current installed Firmware-Version.
5. Select UPDATE
Simply Put will start flashing the new firmeware to the hardware
After a successful update FLOW 8 will indicate the new Firmware-Version and reboot automatically

Mmm, lovely, they fixed the EQ limitation. Along with the rest of the changes, this makes the Flow definitely a bit more interesting.

[Scott Bolt]

When COVID lifts, I might do some solo/duo work.  Normally I have been using my trusty ZED 10 fx for this kind of work .... but I am thinking that there are lots of goodies in the Flow 8 for this kind of gig.

Definitely on my WANT list now

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