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Chris Hindle

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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2020, 12:31:52 pm »

If your subs or tops don't have pole cups, they are readily available on line.
A length of 1 1/2" EMT and a hack saw and you can put them at whatever height you want.
Add a set of Nimrod Weber's Tilters to the top, and you're good to go.
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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2020, 01:03:17 pm »

If you think that TOA product is a "line array", I have the deed to the Grand Canyon and will sell it for the same price as two of those "line arrays".  Read the white papers from Dr. Christian Heil, the father of the modern "line array".  He started the whole thing.  As with the above images of QSC K series (I think) hung in a vertical line, just hanging speakers in a line does not make them work as a line array.  If the "line" isn't at least 6 or 8 feel long, and adhere to the principles stated by Dr. Heil, it will not act as a line array.  Olsen described a "line source" and it's properties 80 years ago but stated it would have infinite length.  None of cabinets that are marketed as "line arrays" that have 15 to 20 degree "segments" and latch or bolt together are line arrays or line sources.  The remain point sources or point and shoot cabinets.
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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2020, 02:04:18 pm »

If you think that TOA product is a "line array", I have the deed to the Grand Canyon and will sell it for the same price as two of those "line arrays".  Read the white papers from Dr. Christian Heil, the father of the modern "line array".  He started the whole thing.  As with the above images of QSC K series (I think) hung in a vertical line, just hanging speakers in a line does not make them work as a line array.  If the "line" isn't at least 6 or 8 feel long, and adhere to the principles stated by Dr. Heil, it will not act as a line array.  Olsen described a "line source" and it's properties 80 years ago but stated it would have infinite length.  None of cabinets that are marketed as "line arrays" that have 15 to 20 degree "segments" and latch or bolt together are line arrays or line sources.  The remain point sources or point and shoot cabinets.



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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2020, 03:04:21 pm »

Add a set of Nimrod Weber's Tilters to the top, and you're good to go.
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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2020, 07:01:27 pm »

No,NO, mine! >:(

yes, let's not forget Dave's tilters that are also excellent!
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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2020, 09:27:30 pm »

No,NO, mine! >:(
Ooops, sorry Dave.
As someone that has never owned a pole-mounted speaker, I completely forgot about your fine handiwork.
I have seen the pictures, and can appreciate the design and engineering that went into them.
Got a Turbo Blue anodization yet?  8)
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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2020, 08:01:57 am »

Add a set of Nimrod Weber's Tilters to the top, and you're good to go. Chris.

YES, that's a great idea, thanks!!

Doing a search for this I came across a pic of it in this thread:

https://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?topic=140040.0

but the sb1000 doesn't have a pole mount so what exactly can I get or improvise with please? Or maybe get a wall mount apparatus which can handle the weight of the EV's like this but with a tilt version?

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_869SPKWM/Gator-Frameworks-Wall-mount-Speaker-Stands.html
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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2020, 08:15:57 am »

yes, let's not forget Dave's tilters that are also excellent!

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Another happy Stagehand Systems tilter user here. Excellent build quality and value. Thanks, Dave!

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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2020, 09:32:01 am »

YES, that's a great idea, thanks!!

Doing a search for this I came across a pic of it in this thread:

https://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?topic=140040.0

but the sb1000 doesn't have a pole mount so what exactly can I get or improvise with please? Or maybe get a wall mount apparatus which can handle the weight of the EV's like this but with a tilt version?

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_869SPKWM/Gator-Frameworks-Wall-mount-Speaker-Stands.html

Get yourself one of these:

https://www.k-m.de/en/products/speaker-lighting-and-monitor-stands-and-holders/speaker-wall-mounts/24110-speaker-wall-mount-black?c=190
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Re: Any old school 70s Ceiling mounted Tops??
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2020, 10:19:40 am »


but the sb1000 doesn't have a pole mount so what exactly can I get or improvise with please? Or maybe get a wall mount apparatus which can handle the weight of the EV's like this but with a tilt version?

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_869SPKWM/Gator-Frameworks-Wall-mount-Speaker-Stands.html
Mike,

The wall mount speaker stands are good, have the built in down angle adjustment for less $$ than balanced tilters.

If you can get by without the down tilt, a set of top hats and poles will "get er done" for under $20 from Parts Express. Requires drilling some holes into the subs, need some mounting screws and T-nuts too, and a jig saw or hole saw, and vacuum cleaner...

Art
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