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duane massey

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Need suggestion for passive speaker
« on: July 29, 2020, 12:06:15 am »

Looking for suggestions for a passive speaker, flyable, with a wide (100-120 deg) dispersion for a small church. Very limited budget, spoken word, high open ceiling. I could build something but I would rather find a current product, and I haven't kept up with the latest offerings.
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2020, 02:18:08 am »

Looking for suggestions for a passive speaker, flyable, with a wide (100-120 deg) dispersion for a small church. Very limited budget, spoken word, high open ceiling. I could build something but I would rather find a current product, and I haven't kept up with the latest offerings.

Check out VUE audiotechnik. Not sure about your horizontal requirement, though.  The i series will be pretty wide due to the dome tweet, but that of course limits SPL.
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2020, 02:31:34 am »

Looking for suggestions for a passive speaker, flyable, with a wide (100-120 deg) dispersion for a small church. Very limited budget, spoken word, high open ceiling. I could build something but I would rather find a current product, and I haven't kept up with the latest offerings.

Fulcrum CX1226 or DX1226.  120x60, and sounds great. 
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2020, 02:37:30 am »

Looking for suggestions for a passive speaker, flyable, with a wide (100-120 deg) dispersion for a small church. Very limited budget, spoken word, high open ceiling. I could build something but I would rather find a current product, and I haven't kept up with the latest offerings.


FBT Vertus would be great.  I can arrange a demo for you Dwayne.





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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2020, 05:42:36 am »

EAW MKD1026 120 x 60 ?
https://www.eaw.com/products-series/mkd-1000-series/

QX399 could also be an option.
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2020, 07:57:39 am »

Community IC6-2082 double 8 available in a 120 X 60 or the IP6-1122 12 inch is available in a 120 X 60.

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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2020, 10:53:20 am »

Looking for suggestions for a passive speaker, flyable, with a wide (100-120 deg) dispersion for a small church. Very limited budget, spoken word, high open ceiling. I could build something but I would rather find a current product, and I haven't kept up with the latest offerings.

Plenty passive speakers to choose from. One thing you didn't mention, what is your "Very limited budget"? Give us an idea and we'll go from there.
I myself would go with central hang of 2 speakers with 60-90 dispersion. Lots of cheap options for new or used available.
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2020, 11:57:06 pm »

Looking for suggestions for a passive speaker, flyable, with a wide (100-120 deg) dispersion for a small church. Very limited budget, spoken word, high open ceiling. I could build something but I would rather find a current product, and I haven't kept up with the latest offerings.

EAW KF300's are $500/pair right now. Have proper fly hardware and sound great.
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2020, 08:35:54 pm »

Thanks to everyone. I have given the info to the people at the church, and they will stare at the numbers and probably go to GC and buy whatever the sales guy can fit into their budget. Hopefully they will realize they need to spend a little more than they thought, but this is a very small congregation in a poor part of the city so I am not optimistic.
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2020, 01:36:13 pm »

Thanks to everyone. I have given the info to the people at the church, and they will stare at the numbers and probably go to GC and buy whatever the sales guy can fit into their budget. Hopefully they will realize they need to spend a little more than they thought, but this is a very small congregation in a poor part of the city so I am not optimistic.

What's the budget?
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2020, 02:03:51 pm »

this is a very small congregation in a poor part of the city so I am not optimistic.

Well, to be blunt, that makes it more crucial for them to get the right solution, rather than "Whatever GC has on the shelf." Being a good steward with their limited funds, and all of that...

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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2020, 03:03:15 pm »

probably go to GC and buy whatever the sales guy can fit into their budget. Hopefully they will realize they need to spend a little more than they thought, but this is a very small congregation in a poor part of the city so I am not optimistic.
You REALLY need to get the best you can afford, and not the cheapest that will fit.......
And yes, there is a difference.
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2020, 06:12:16 pm »

EAW KF300's are $500/pair right now. Have proper fly hardware and sound great.

+1 on this setup. Very effective for the requirements you're looking for.
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2020, 08:03:12 pm »

If I'm reading Duane correctly, this HoW needs a single loudspeaker, for whatever reasons, and my guess is the lighter, the better. 
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2020, 08:32:56 pm »

A Danley SM100 would be my go to speaker for this situation, but if that price is completely out of the question and there's no talking them into saving up then the best rock bottom price speaker I can think of for this situation that might work would be an EV ZX1-100. If that's still too much then....good luck
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2020, 08:14:08 am »

Thanks to everyone. I have given the info to the people at the church, and they will stare at the numbers and probably go to GC and buy whatever the sales guy can fit into their budget. Hopefully they will realize they need to spend a little more than they thought, but this is a very small congregation in a poor part of the city so I am not optimistic.

Church sound can be a bit weird (at least for me).
My church's sound system (in the sanctuary) went down the last week of June.
The priest called me (I am a parishioner) to take a look.

I've gotten the system up and running in the past (it was usually another volunteer messing with the levels, someone "rewired" something, etc.) but this time I told the priest to call an AV company since one of the components (the mixer) had shorted out....plus the electrical worked looked like a hack job to be honest.

My level of knowledge is with portable PA systems with very little experience with 70V systems.

Yesterday, an AV company was at the church and the priest asked if I could be there.....
I did not go.  Why?

My gut tells me that if I recommend this AV for the install/fix the priest will assume that I will know how to maintain it....
I would rather not be "that close" to the installed system.

My help with the church is that I put in a portable PA system for them to use until the installed system is fixed.

All of the above said:
As a parishioner you want the best for your church, however, sometimes you have to let-go.

Now, as far as going to Guitar C and trusting what the salesmen say.....???

If you end up with a pile of Harbinger speakers in your church........
send the people that bought pile of j*** my way.  I'd like to sell them the Brooklyn Bridge...   
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2020, 08:42:50 am »

RE: Zx1 option

I  replaced the 90x50 horn with 100x100 in my Zx1s and a they are very smooth across the sound field. Prior to that, they had a detectable L-C-R pattern, with the C being prominent. That could be good, or bad. Going to 100x100 was a big improvement for my purposes.

BTW, if you do want to try a Zx1-100 (or Zx1-90), I have 1 EV QuickSAM white mounting bracket [with the bolt] for 'make a small offer' + cost of shipping from IL.

-Dennis
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Re: Need suggestion for passive speaker
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2020, 08:44:07 am »

If you could go active, Bob Piascik has a pair of Yamaha DSR 112s in the Marketplace for $900.
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