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Tim McCulloch

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Modifications by Dummies, too late for Darwin Award...
« on: July 19, 2020, 04:40:27 pm »

A marina at Lake Pleasant, AZ was the scene of two brothers drownings because of electrified waters near their boat.  The marina's electrical system was ruled out, so that leaves... what?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/peoria-breaking/2020/07/15/sheriffs-office-modified-boat-electricity-system-led-lake-pleasant-drownings/5446192002/
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Re: Modifications by Dummies, too late for Darwin Award...
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2020, 04:52:56 pm »

#1 on that list should be use GFCI breakers.
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Re: Modifications by Dummies, too late for Darwin Award...
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2020, 05:25:01 pm »

#1 on that list should be use GFCI breakers.

They wired up their mod in such a way that the marina system did not trip.  The article states the brothers deliberately bypassed safety systems.... probably because it kept tripping.
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Re: Modifications by Dummies, too late for Darwin Award...
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2020, 06:09:21 pm »

They wired up their mod in such a way that the marina system did not trip.  The article states the brothers deliberately bypassed safety systems.... probably because it kept tripping.

Correct. I was not talking about what the brothers should or should not have done.

I was saying the list should include GFCI Breakers.
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Re: Modifications by Dummies, too late for Darwin Award...
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2020, 06:51:08 pm »

The only good side to this story is others were not killed by this stupidity.
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Re: Modifications by Dummies, too late for Darwin Award...
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2020, 12:37:57 pm »

I still curious though-if the marina's system was safe and correct, which assume means using GFCI protection, I don't see how modifications on the load side of a receptacle could create a hazard?

If it was an inverter or generator on the boat supplying power, that makes more sense.
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Re: Modifications by Dummies, too late for Darwin Award...
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2020, 04:57:05 pm »

As a slight aside to this thread, I recently plumbed and re-wired a hot tub and was interested in testing the GFCI main 40 A breaker with a real "live" test.
Took a piece of wire and touched one end to the 240 leg supplying the pump and the other to the water.(maintaining safety of myself)
I barely touched the surface of the water and the breaker tripped!
Makes me wonder about Stephens question as the the safety of the marina's system.
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