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Eric Baker

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jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« on: June 24, 2020, 10:26:38 pm »

Does anyone have any processor settings they could share with me for the JTR 212 pro and the NOESIS 212TX. I will be using a qsc pld 4.5. I did email Jeff at JTR, but I guess he is busy.

 Thanks in advice! 
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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2020, 01:15:20 am »

Hi Eric,

Give Jeff a bit of time, I think they have a big home theater event soon. I don't have 212tx's. I do have 212p subs, but they are powered. I'm gonna be little help. I cross my subs around 90. How do you like the tops? They are on my shortlist when gigs really start up again.

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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2020, 09:03:14 am »

I'm not sure I take delivery on them tomorrow. I'm hoping to play around with them tomorrow.
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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2020, 09:46:30 am »

Some info here: https://data-bass.com/#/systems/5c253bba3e9dff0004ee21f4?_k=rrhm0p

Might help guide you on custom settings. Looks like 18dB/oct@35Hz will be a good starting point.

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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2020, 12:00:14 pm »

I'm not sure I take delivery on them tomorrow. I'm hoping to play around with them tomorrow.

If you wouldn't mind sharing thoughts (and pictures) once you get to play around, would love to get some insight.
No pics up yet on JTR website.
Curious how compact, yet powerful, a system like that will be.
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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2020, 03:20:52 pm »

Hell, just plug 'em in and see what you think.  We did gigs with no HPF for too many years, so if you use the HPF Chris suggests and don't do anything stupid, you're good to audition.
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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2020, 09:55:45 am »

JTR has been lax with those website pics. There are pics on the JTR Facebook page along with some commentary from Jeff.
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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2020, 07:50:12 am »

If you wouldn't mind sharing thoughts (and pictures) once you get to play around, would love to get some insight.
No pics up yet on JTR website.
Curious how compact, yet powerful, a system like that will be.

Well I just used a LR at 90 and set a high pass at 30 for the subs. Then I high passed the tops at 90. I did more or less a band rehearse outside in a large driveway/parking lot. I have to say the tops sound great! Very happy with them. I only had to make a couple cuts to my taste around 1k and 4k. Like I said nothing crazy. They sounded great out of the box. The biggest thing I noticed was everything was a lot cleaner. I found myself pulling down the vocal gain a good bit. It was like I was running my danley sm80's. I was not pushing anything to come out of the mix it was just there. With this band I was using a pair of JBL SRX835 and 828.
Now for the subs. I'm impressed for their size and weight! They do get up and go for being under 80lbs each. I had them center clustered which seem to work great for this gig. They don't go low, but I knew that getting them. I do have to say they are punchy and clean if that is the right word. They are no th118 by and means! But, for this band which is a 80's band (not 80's hair band) I think they will do just find. Plus most of the places they play are indoors for anywhere from 150-500 people.
I did get a couple pics of the tops but for some reason it will not let me attach them. 
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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2020, 01:34:13 pm »

Well I just used a LR at 90 and set a high pass at 30 for the subs. Then I high passed the tops at 90. I did more or less a band rehearse outside in a large driveway/parking lot. I have to say the tops sound great! Very happy with them. I only had to make a couple cuts to my taste around 1k and 4k. Like I said nothing crazy. They sounded great out of the box. The biggest thing I noticed was everything was a lot cleaner. I found myself pulling down the vocal gain a good bit. It was like I was running my danley sm80's. I was not pushing anything to come out of the mix it was just there. With this band I was using a pair of JBL SRX835 and 828.
Now for the subs. I'm impressed for their size and weight! They do get up and go for being under 80lbs each. I had them center clustered which seem to work great for this gig. They don't go low, but I knew that getting them. I do have to say they are punchy and clean if that is the right word. They are no th118 by and means! But, for this band which is a 80's band (not 80's hair band) I think they will do just find. Plus most of the places they play are indoors for anywhere from 150-500 people.
I did get a couple pics of the tops but for some reason it will not let me attach them.

It's possible your photo's are too large. There is a size limit.
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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2020, 02:26:50 am »

Well I just used a LR at 90 and set a high pass at 30 for the subs. Then I high passed the tops at 90. I did more or less a band rehearse outside in a large driveway/parking lot. I have to say the tops sound great! Very happy with them. I only had to make a couple cuts to my taste around 1k and 4k. Like I said nothing crazy. They sounded great out of the box. The biggest thing I noticed was everything was a lot cleaner. I found myself pulling down the vocal gain a good bit. It was like I was running my danley sm80's. I was not pushing anything to come out of the mix it was just there. With this band I was using a pair of JBL SRX835 and 828.
Now for the subs. I'm impressed for their size and weight! They do get up and go for being under 80lbs each. I had them center clustered which seem to work great for this gig. They don't go low, but I knew that getting them. I do have to say they are punchy and clean if that is the right word. They are no th118 by and means! But, for this band which is a 80's band (not 80's hair band) I think they will do just find. Plus most of the places they play are indoors for anywhere from 150-500 people.
I did get a couple pics of the tops but for some reason it will not let me attach them.


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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2020, 06:56:39 am »


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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2020, 02:39:42 pm »

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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2020, 09:00:36 am »

So I would like to say the tops are great! Boxes are very solid! But I'm not happy at all about not having these settings. Is it stopping me from using them no! But, I have sent him several times since I placed the order back in May asking for settings. I understand people get busy and forget things. No big deal, but I have emailed him at least 4 times asking for them. He has always replied to the emails, but never has once said anything about the settings. I have even called and talked to him about sending me the setting. He did seems very busy/distracted when I had him on the phone. So I sent him a email after the fact. From what other people say online he is a great guy and very helpful. I have not seen this at all when I called he did not seem to want to give me the time of day. So maybe he will see this and send me a receipt for my purchase and some processor settings. The last email I will ever send him was over ten day ago. With no reply!
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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2020, 11:46:21 am »

Well, on the webpage for the 212TX, an 80Hz highpass is recommended as the minimum cutoff frequency. The C212Pro looks like it'll run well over 100Hz just fine.

For 1:1, I'd probably run at 80Hz and give the mains more of the signal to play with, since low frequencies require more displacement. With more subs available, I'd take the crossover up higher, with an upper limit depending on positioning.

What other settings are you looking for?

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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2020, 12:40:10 pm »

Here is some info Jeff sent to me when I purchased the C212Pro cabinets.

"Continuous power is 800 watts which is 56.5 volts at 4 ohms. You can set a limiter at 56.5 volts with a long attack and release (300ms/500ms). The peak is 3200w which is 113 volts at 4 ohms. If your amp can't swing that much voltage than you can engage a simple clip limiter. If your amp can swing more than 113 volts than you'll want to set the limiter at 113 volts with a shorter attack and release (30ms/50ms). These are good starting points and could be fine tuned."

*Use at your own risk*

I can't find the email where Jeff and I talked filters.
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Re: jtr captivator 212 pro processor settings
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2020, 05:56:17 pm »

Does anyone have any processor settings they could share with me for the JTR 212 pro and the NOESIS 212TX. I will be using a qsc pld 4.5. I did email Jeff at JTR, but I guess he is busy.

 Thanks in advice!

Eric

You should reach out to member Steve Litscher. He has worked with and is close to Jeff. I have powered C212pros . Great little subs. Dont go very low/deep, but great for general band duty.
This summer, I plan on doing a serious listening test in the back yard and then compare to other subs.
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