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brian maddox:

--- Quote from: Stephen Swaffer on April 28, 2020, 01:03:41 PM ---I've primarily worked on getting a good mix to the video guys-but I assume the easiest (best?) way to embed the audio in the HDMI is to run audio into the camera?

I know we are using more than one camera-so that might complicate things a bit unless Wirecast can utilize the same audio stream regardless of camera.

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The easiest way to embed audio into an existing system is via one of the cameras.  So long as you're going into line level input and such this works well.

I don't know about wirecast, but I know that the BMD stuff has an "audio follows video" option that you can uncheck so that the audio only comes from one source regardless of switching.

Caleb Dueck:

--- Quote from: Stephen Swaffer on April 28, 2020, 01:03:41 PM ---I've primarily worked on getting a good mix to the video guys-but I assume the easiest (best?) way to embed the audio in the HDMI is to run audio into the camera?

I know we are using more than one camera-so that might complicate things a bit unless Wirecast can utilize the same audio stream regardless of camera.

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Camera audio is more for emergency backup.  Take your video mix feed from your video switcher or router and use an SDI or HDMI audio embedder.  Some video switchers have balanced or digital audio inputs already. 

It's like room mics in audio.  You wouldn't use a room mic instead of a console feed, so why use a camera instead of the video system feed?

Mac Kerr:

--- Quote from: Caleb Dueck on April 28, 2020, 06:53:27 PM ---Camera audio is more for emergency backup.  Take your video mix feed from your video switcher or router and use an SDI or HDMI audio embedder.  Some video switchers have balanced or digital audio inputs already. 

It's like room mics in audio.  You wouldn't use a room mic instead of a console feed, so why use a camera instead of the video system feed?

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If the camera audio is embedded, why would you need another embedder.

Mac

brian maddox:

--- Quote from: Caleb Dueck on April 28, 2020, 06:53:27 PM ---Camera audio is more for emergency backup.  Take your video mix feed from your video switcher or router and use an SDI or HDMI audio embedder.  Some video switchers have balanced or digital audio inputs already. 

It's like room mics in audio.  You wouldn't use a room mic instead of a console feed, so why use a camera instead of the video system feed?

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If by camera audio you mean the microphone ON the camera, then yes.  But i think the OP is referring to using the XLR inputs on a camera as an embed point.  This has a number of drawbacks, but can work fine if it's done correctly and even has teh advantage of limiting the amount of audio offset needed later for latency correction.

You are correct that the ideal way to do this is with an embedder downstream of the Video switcher, but sometimes you got to work with you've got.

Stephen Swaffer:
Thank you for the responses.  I appreciate all of them-and the spirit of helping make the best of what we have.  I know that a switcher and other equipment is the way to o-but as Brian said sometimes we have to make do with what we have.  Usually the end product is more about the skill and vision of the person than about the gear.  We never aspired to be a broadcast ministry (nothing against those that do).  Obviously current events have forced our hand-and maybe even caused us to re-think some things.  Still there is a desire to do the very best we can, but investing in better gear and researching the right solutions will take some time.


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