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Ike Zimbel

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Re: Z Z Top console
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2020, 11:02:32 am »

All this talk about "Kustom crap">

I bet you change your mind when you hear my computer speakers at my office.  You've just forgotten what what they can sound like, with a few modifications of course HA HA  Putting an NL 4 inplace of the 1/4" made ALL the difference.

That, and having a 2400 watt/ch amp drive them also helps----------
I bet all that upholstery provides some kind of resonance damping on the cabinets! How many channels is that Peavey mixer in your desk, 10? The Kustom 12 channel console that I mentioned above was easily twice as wide as that...used the same massive "stove knobs", but had about a 1/4 acre of open space around each one...
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2020, 11:24:03 am »

I bet all that upholstery provides some kind of resonance damping on the cabinets! How many channels is that Peavey mixer in your desk, 10? The Kustom 12 channel console that I mentioned above was easily twice as wide as that...used the same massive "stove knobs", but had about a 1/4 acre of open space around each one...
The Peavey console under my desk is a PA900, so 9 channels.  The series all had odd number of channels, I don't know why.  I have a photo (not real clear) of one that has around 23 channels or so.  There was a smaller one, the PA700.

It has a built in 400 watt @ 2 ohm amp.

It still worked when I put it "under glass".
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2020, 11:29:27 am »

Right before they went out of business (or so I am told the story) they made some "professional" consoles.

I heard there were 7 made.  At one time I owned 3 of them and knew where a 4th was.  The 24 channel verison weighed around 250 lbs or so.  Each channel was individually shielded, had a 5 band true LCR tone control circuit, switchable high and low pass filters, and I think a compressor on each channel.

The auxes were the stupidest I have ever seen.  They sent a signal to the rear of each channel, and had a return on each channel. but were not summed together.

So no monitor mixes or effects mixes.

I turned one of the 24 channel versions into a 8 mix monitor console and did a good number of national acts on it, after I redid the preamp, which was very low impedance input and would completely kill the tone at the FOH console due to the loading.

Oh those were the days.
I just ran across the best photo of the Kustom console.  But still doesn't show much.
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2020, 12:00:00 pm »

I just ran across the best photo of the Kustom console.  But still doesn't show much.

shows much better days in the hair department
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Re: Z Z Top console
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2020, 12:09:04 pm »

I just ran across the best photo of the Kustom console.  But still doesn't show much.
That looks like a much later version than the one I'm talking about. I'll see if I can find a pic...
Edit: Here's one for sale:https://reverb.com/ca/item/1149586-kustom-model-viii-srm-black-wood-grain-mixing-board
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2020, 12:22:21 pm »

shows much better days in the hair department
That wasn't me.  It was my monitor guy for the show
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2020, 12:25:07 pm »

That looks like a much later version than the one I'm talking about. I'll see if I can find a pic...
Edit: Here's one for sale:https://reverb.com/ca/item/1149586-kustom-model-viii-srm-black-wood-grain-mixing-board
The ones I had were right before they went out of business.

The one you showed was from the "2nd generation" (as I call it) Kustom.  After the rolled and pleated generation.

That console would be late 70s or so
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2020, 12:34:55 pm »


That console would be late 70s or so
Yep, and they were new when I encountered them, too! :-[
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2020, 01:10:41 pm »

I just ran across the best photo of the Kustom console.  But still doesn't show much.


Looks like a Carver amp in that rack too.



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Re: Z Z Top console
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2020, 01:27:03 pm »


Looks like a Carver amp in that rack too.
I ran lots of carvers 1.5s back in the day.

HORRIBLE pin 1 problem.  That, of course, I didn't realize until after I stopped using them.

I would often spend hours trying to get the buzz/hum out of the system because of that.

I loved the weight though.  VERY light for those days
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