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Tim McCulloch

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Re: Hiking Nerds
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2020, 11:19:02 am »

The reason so many parks and recreation areas are closed - folks think that business and school closures is a vacation, not a medical restriction.  When the parking lots are full, when folks are hiking shoulder to shoulder on the trails... it's not "distancing-friendly".

What the regulators have not considered:  about 300,000 Americans are "full time RVers" (not including those who are now in an RV due to involuntary houselessness) who do not own a permanent structure residence and whose mailing address is a forwarding service.  They are being evicted from rental lots and from state and federal campgrounds.  They literally have nowhere else to go.  Regulators think that campgrounds are 100% recreation, and they aren't.
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Re: Hiking Nerds
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2020, 11:26:26 am »

The reason so many parks and recreation areas are closed - folks think that business and school closures is a vacation, not a medical restriction.  When the parking lots are full, when folks are hiking shoulder to shoulder on the trails... it's not "distancing-friendly".

What the regulators have not considered:  about 300,000 Americans are "full time RVers" (not including those who are now in an RV due to involuntary houselessness) who do not own a permanent structure residence and whose mailing address is a forwarding service.  They are being evicted from rental lots and from state and federal campgrounds.  They literally have nowhere else to go.  Regulators think that campgrounds are 100% recreation, and they aren't.

Yeah, there's been some discussion of this in the climbing world where there is a not-insignificant population of van-lifers.  The services they rely on are drying up and their welcome in the communities they seasonally call home is also drying up.

Here in Minneapolis the roads around some popular city lakes have been closed so that there's more walking space for social distancing.  The park board also just announced that public pools, beaches, and restrooms would remain closed for the season due to the inability to keep them properly virus clean.  Just to be clear, they do do a good job keeping them "regular" clean.
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Re: Hiking Nerds
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2020, 10:51:33 pm »

I work in a manufacturing facility so working from home is not feasible-and we are considered essential.  As part of my job, I researched costs for sanitizing the facility in the even of the covid positive employee.  The cost for following the correct protocols is not insignificant ($1-2 sq/ft)-especially considering that a second positive after the sanitizing would mean doing it all over again.  Makes the closing of public facilities (which would likely have to be treated at least every day as a covid positive user) more understandable.  We have the advantage of a controlled group of "users"-but it's still a tough situation.
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Re: Hiking Nerds
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2020, 08:56:56 am »

The reason so many parks and recreation areas are closed - folks think that business and school closures is a vacation, not a medical restriction.  When the parking lots are full, when folks are hiking shoulder to shoulder on the trails... it's not "distancing-friendly".

What the regulators have not considered:  about 300,000 Americans are "full time RVers" (not including those who are now in an RV due to involuntary houselessness) who do not own a permanent structure residence and whose mailing address is a forwarding service.  They are being evicted from rental lots and from state and federal campgrounds.  They literally have nowhere else to go.  Regulators think that campgrounds are 100% recreation, and they aren't.

It is super shitty for the others involuntarily living in vans, but 300k spread over the country is a ridiculously small number for any locality to think about right now.
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Re: Hiking Nerds
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2020, 10:58:35 pm »

For what it's worth, I just got back (~4 hours ago) from 7 nights of camping on BLM land in the Mojave Desert of California. There are no restrictions in place at this time and I saw about a normal, for this time of year, number of parties out there doing the same thing. The only contact we had with others was to buy gasoline -- at self-serve stations followed by a dousing of 70% isopropanol. Being out of cellular coverage for almost all that time was pretty cool -- made me feel like a bit of a bad boy. I recommend it. --Frank
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