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Jeff Bankston

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SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« on: February 06, 2020, 06:48:02 pm »

Anyone using Type W single conductor 1/0-4/0 cables from generator to power distro ?

http://wesbellwireandcable.com/SOOW/difference-between-soow-wire-and-type-w-power-cable.html



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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2020, 09:49:32 pm »

Anyone using Type W single conductor 1/0-4/0 cables from generator to power distro ?

http://wesbellwireandcable.com/SOOW/difference-between-soow-wire-and-type-w-power-cable.html

This for cams or whatever? Well, since the NEC prohibits single pole connectors on multiple-conductor-in-one-jacket-cable, I can't imagine anyone would be using 2/5 or whatever SOOW cable for cams.
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2020, 10:24:43 pm »

This for cams or whatever? Well, since the NEC prohibits single pole connectors on multiple-conductor-in-one-jacket-cable, I can't imagine anyone would be using 2/5 or whatever SOOW cable for cams.

He did say single conductor.

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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2020, 01:45:23 am »

This for cams or whatever? Well, since the NEC prohibits single pole connectors on multiple-conductor-in-one-jacket-cable, I can't imagine anyone would be using 2/5 or whatever SOOW cable for cams.
Single conductor "cables" not "multiconductor" cord. 4-6 "individual" 1/0-4/0 runs with camlocks.

 
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2020, 08:09:57 am »

I think of cables and cords as having two or more conductors.
where as wires have one conductor.
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2020, 10:01:42 pm »

Single conductor "cables" not "multiconductor" cord. 4-6 "individual" 1/0-4/0 runs with camlocks.

OK. Sorry, your thread subject said "SOOW vs Type W" so I thought maybe the discussion was "which is better, multi or single conductor?"
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2020, 01:49:32 am »

OK. Sorry, your thread subject said "SOOW vs Type W" so I thought maybe the discussion was "which is better, multi or single conductor?"
Anyone used cables with W insulation and SOOW insulation ?  How has the insulation held up ? Type W is suppose to be a little tougher but I have only used W and need more cables and might go with SOOW if it holds up as good as W. A cable is single conductor , a cord is 2 or more conductors. 4/0 comes in cable and cord. I use 4/0 cable from the genny to the main distro.

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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2020, 01:57:45 pm »

At the risk of further confusion, isn't there also SC single conductor cable in sizes appropriate for feeder use?  SC is rated at 600 volts, IIRC, and is recognized for entertainment use under various NEC chapter 5xx provisions.  Is SC an option for you, Jeff?
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2020, 12:46:23 pm »

I think of cables and cords as having two or more conductors.
where as wires have one conductor.
Y'know, the terms cable and cord are kind of ambiguous -- they are commonly used for both multi-strand wires and multi-core wiring. Or, in the case of "cord", can refer to anything from the thread holding your shirt together to the ropes tying ships to the pier to the high-tension power lines that naturopaths freak out under.

The terms single-strand, multi-strand, single-core, and multi-core are unambiguous. They, however, roll off the tongue like a square wheel and make you sound like a freakin' pedant.
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2020, 06:43:25 pm »

Y'know, the terms cable and cord are kind of ambiguous -- they are commonly used for both multi-strand wires and multi-core wiring. Or, in the case of "cord", can refer to anything from the thread holding your shirt together to the ropes tying ships to the pier to the high-tension power lines that naturopaths freak out under.

The terms single-strand, multi-strand, single-core, and multi-core are unambiguous. They, however, roll off the tongue like a square wheel and make you sound like a freakin' pedant.
This thread was about the durability of insulation. SOOW vs W insulation. I was asking if anyone has used both which held up better ? It was never intended to about what is a cable and what is a cord. 
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2020, 09:45:26 pm »

I thought type W was mining and railroad use but maybe confusing it with another type.  I can't imagine S or any of its derivatives having a more mechanically robust outer jacket composition than a one designed for such uses.  W is a double-jacketed cable like SC so I suspect the jacket material is the primary difference.
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2020, 11:47:26 pm »

I thought type W was mining and railroad use but maybe confusing it with another type.  I can't imagine S or any of its derivatives having a more mechanically robust outer jacket composition than a one designed for such uses.  W is a double-jacketed cable like SC so I suspect the jacket material is the primary difference.
My 4/0 W cables are double jacket but very flexible. It is used for loco traction motors , welding , etc and very durable but very very expensive. I need another 500FT to cut into 5 cables and was thinking of SOOW since it cost less. The price of wire has gone up since I bought mine. Heres a foto of one of my 8 foot type W tails for lug connection at genny cam on the other end. Check out the white inner insulation. Stripping isnt fun at all.




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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2020, 01:08:36 am »

I thought type W was mining and railroad use but maybe confusing it with another type.  I can't imagine S or any of its derivatives having a more mechanically robust outer jacket composition than a one designed for such uses.  W is a double-jacketed cable like SC so I suspect the jacket material is the primary difference.

Lex article shows the difference between SC and W jackets
W is rated for 2kV, SC is rated for 600V. W costs about 30% more that SC based on some quick price checking.
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2020, 02:30:41 pm »

Stripping isnt fun at all.

Must....resist...derailing threat with inappropriate comment here......
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2020, 03:07:43 pm »

Must....resist...derailing threat with inappropriate comment here......

At Jeff's age I'm sure his statement works with multiple interpretations!

Boss:  "Uh, what's with the brass pole by the workbench?"
Me:  "Well, you said you needed some new strippers..."
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Re: SOOW VS TYPE W Cable
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2020, 04:08:49 pm »

At Jeff's age I'm sure his statement works with multiple interpretations!

Boss:  "Uh, what's with the brass pole by the workbench?"
Me:  "Well, you said you needed some new strippers..."
T stripper fur shure fur shure gag me with a spoon ! lmao !



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