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MikeHarris

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Shure Axient vs ULXD
« on: January 30, 2020, 03:04:17 am »

We are Shure dealers and I am curious which Axient features lead you to prefer it over the ULXD.
while the 4 channel receiver is @ 25% more than the ULXD4Q...the tx are @ 2X the price and am just wondering if the benefits are evident
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Re: Shure Axient vs ULXD
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2020, 07:22:04 am »

We are Shure dealers and I am curious which Axient features lead you to prefer it over the ULXD.
while the 4 channel receiver is @ 25% more than the ULXD4Q...the tx are @ 2X the price and am just wondering if the benefits are evident

For me, the main benefit is the automatic interference detection and frequency hopping. You need to get additional hardware for this though.  I donít typically use the frequency diversity transmitters as no one will hear a blip in my applications.
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Re: Shure Axient vs ULXD
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2020, 08:33:43 am »

We are Shure dealers and I am curious which Axient features lead you to prefer it over the ULXD.
while the 4 channel receiver is @ 25% more than the ULXD4Q...the tx are @ 2X the price and am just wondering if the benefits are evident
The diversity system in the AD is much more sophisticated than the system in the ULXD. The very short strokes is that AD takes the best of both antennas all of the time while ULXD is taking an "either A, or B" approach.
Other features that contribute to the price difference include the AD headphone system, which allows you to monitor any device on the Dante network from one unit, and, all of the i/o on the back. The fact that ULXD has NO headphone output at all has always bugged me.
       So, they are not apples-to-apples. The ULXD works fine, in many applications, the AD is a great system.
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Re: Shure Axient vs ULXD
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2020, 03:28:30 pm »

We are Shure dealers and I am curious which Axient features lead you to prefer it over the ULXD.
while the 4 channel receiver is @ 25% more than the ULXD4Q...the tx are @ 2X the price and am just wondering if the benefits are evident


There is also a huge difference in the available frequency range - Axient gives you the entire 184MHz (?) range, whereas with ULXD you have to choose a range in roughly 60MHz increments. For me, this is a huge selling point. The better diversity system also gives a quality rating ("Q") for the RF signal - so even if you have full bars, it will notify you of poor quality if you happen to have significant interference, reflections, etc (at least that is my understanding).
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Re: Shure Axient vs ULXD
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2020, 05:30:21 pm »

The diversity system in the AD is much more sophisticated than the system in the ULXD. The very short strokes is that AD takes the best of both antennas all of the time while ULXD is taking an "either A, or B" approach.
Other features that contribute to the price difference include the AD headphone system, which allows you to monitor any device on the Dante network from one unit, and, all of the i/o on the back. The fact that ULXD has NO headphone output at all has always bugged me.
       So, they are not apples-to-apples. The ULXD works fine, in many applications, the AD is a great system.

It can't be stressed enough in this comparison, the far more advanced design and performance of the RF section in the Axient over the ULXD. Digging a bit deeper in Ike's comments, the ULXD will blindly switch to the other antenna once the predefined BER threshold is surpassed, whether or not the newly switched antenna has better or worse RSSI/BER.

Additionally, the Axient receiver has far better sensitivity and selectivity, while the transmitters have significantly better linearity and RF power control. Further, the transmission scheme and codec are superior. (Most of the 'golden ears' will say the Axient sounds better than the ULXD.) In short, when the ULXD is reaching its performance limits, the Axient still has a lot of headroom.

The real question is what makes ROI sense for you.
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Re: Shure Axient vs ULXD
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2020, 05:46:20 pm »

It can't be stressed enough in this comparison, the far more advanced design and performance of the RF section in the Axient over the ULXD. Digging a bit deeper in Ike's comments, the ULXD will blindly switch to the other antenna once the predefined BER threshold is surpassed, whether or not the newly switched antenna has better or worse RSSI/BER.

Additionally, the Axient receiver has far better sensitivity and selectivity, while the transmitters have significantly better linearity and RF power control. Further, the transmission scheme and codec are superior. (Most of the 'golden ears' will say the Axient sounds better than the ULXD.) In short, when the ULXD is reaching its performance limits, the Axient still has a lot of headroom.

The real question is what makes ROI sense for you.

It's also worth noting, although not necessarily applicable to the OP, that AD's superior RX front end linearity and tight filtering allow an advanced user under extreme conditions and high channel counts to space channel frequencies closer together than best practice normally allows.

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Re: Shure Axient vs ULXD
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2020, 05:58:28 pm »

. . . to space channel frequencies closer together than best practice normally allows.

The only thing closer is Jason's haircut  ;D
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Re: Shure Axient vs ULXD
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2020, 06:25:05 pm »

The only thing closer is Jason's haircut  ;D

Hey, I resemble that remark!

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Re: Shure Axient vs ULXD
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2020, 06:46:58 pm »

The only thing closer is Jason's haircut  ;D

So, if i've still got all [most] of my hair does that mean i can't have as many channels of RF?
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Re: Shure Axient vs ULXD
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2020, 06:58:49 pm »

So, if i've still got all [most] of my hair does that mean i can't have as many channels of RF?

Correct. You have to use Samson wireless.
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