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Taylor Hall

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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2020, 09:33:48 am »

I know Behringer/Midas has an app that acts as an IEM feed for performers (X/M-32-Q) which might serve your purposes, but would take up routing space in the console.
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2020, 11:36:48 am »

I know Behringer/Midas has an app that acts as an IEM feed for performers (X/M-32-Q) which might serve your purposes, but would take up routing space in the console.

Does what now? Q is just a limited control app.
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2020, 11:41:12 am »

Just curious, would you how much latency are we talking about?  My use case would be for walking around when Im 50-75ms/ft in front of the mains anyway.

Apple's AirPlay, for instance, has a fixed latency of 2 full seconds. Better is certainly possible, but WIFI is not a reliable streaming protocol.
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2020, 11:45:44 am »

Does what now? Q is just a limited control app.
Yeah, its designed as a performer-controlled monitoring app, it doesn't affect anything going out to the main LR. So if you wanted to listen in you could hop in that app, select your channel(s) and then hop back into your mixing app and go from there.
Not an ideal setup by any means, but I don't know of any other method of accomplishing this short of plugging some kind of BT or other wireless dongle into the console's headphone jack which opens its own can of worms...
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2020, 02:06:53 pm »

Yeah, its designed as a performer-controlled monitoring app, it doesn't affect anything going out to the main LR. So if you wanted to listen in you could hop in that app, select your channel(s) and then hop back into your mixing app and go from there.
Not an ideal setup by any means, but I don't know of any other method of accomplishing this short of plugging some kind of BT or other wireless dongle into the console's headphone jack which opens its own can of worms...

The X32Q app does NOT pass audio to the control iOS device.  It is only for adjusting mixes
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2020, 06:57:40 pm »

Just curious, would you how much latency are we talking about?  My use case would be for walking around when Im 50-75ms/ft in front of the mains anyway.

As a point of reference, Wavetool (a very useful piece of theatre-oriented RF microphone monitoring software) offers audio streaming to iOS clients over Wi-Fi with configurable latency. My recollection is that the lowest setting is 50ms, which is pretty unstable even on decent wireless, so I tend to think of 100ms as a practical minimum latency over Wi-Fi for applications that are dropout-tolerant. Depends on what you're willing to put up with, of course.

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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2020, 07:29:20 pm »

Tiny bar gig and way too loud from the stage, so I only needed to hear the soloed vocals to fiddle.
If I was in a proper venue I would look into that, but if you're walking around, any delay is only good at one distance anyway.

After I hit Post I thought about it some more. In venues where this would be an option, delaying them would be unnecessary. Like you said its mostly blending vocals to the stage volume in a smaller area. If I'm in a venue where that would be a consideration I would have a proper FOH and console.
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2020, 05:36:36 am »

For an iPad, you can use an Apple TV audio out connected to the input of the console.
Older versions of ATV can be had cheap.
I'm not sure the newer versions have a 3.5mm output, I think it's optical so a converter would be required.
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2020, 09:24:33 am »

I have been watching a tool called AudioFusion. 

Brandon Leafblad <leafblad@AUDIOFUSIONSYSTEMS.COM>
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Hi Jerome,

Well likely have to wait until after the Android version is out before we attack the Windows version.

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This uses a macbook to setup and pass audio to an ipad or iphone to be used as IEM.   they are working on Android and hope to replace the macbook with an PC one day. 
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2020, 11:49:40 am »

I have been watching a tool called AudioFusion. 

Brandon Leafblad <leafblad@AUDIOFUSIONSYSTEMS.COM>
Tue 11/5/2019 7:31 PM
Hi Jerome,

Well likely have to wait until after the Android version is out before we attack the Windows version.

So That All May Hear,

Brandon Leafblad
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This uses a macbook to setup and pass audio to an ipad or iphone to be used as IEM.   they are working on Android and hope to replace the macbook with an PC one day.

I've been watching this too.

They're billing this as a IEM replacement, but i'm skeptical because of latency issues that are inherent in the WiFi protocol. But for use as a cueing system for a remote mixing situation, this may be just the thing.
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