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Sam Costa

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Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« on: January 11, 2020, 03:21:02 pm »

Are there a way to use the headphone output on iPads or tablets when mixing using digital rack consoles like Midas MR18, Soundcraft Ui24, etc? Sure would be a useful tool sometimes.
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2020, 04:04:23 pm »

Are there a way to use the headphone output on iPads or tablets when mixing using digital rack consoles like Midas MR18, Soundcraft Ui24, etc? Sure would be a useful tool sometimes.
That would be handy but my assumption is that most apps simply send/receive control sequences rather than audio. That said, MixingStation uses PAFL from the mixer to feed its RTA display but Iím not aware of a way to gain access to that audio.
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2020, 05:26:55 pm »

I just did a gig with my Ui24 where I ran the headphone outs into an IEM Tx.  The headphones into a belt pack Rx.  Worked great.  Full mobility.
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2020, 09:19:42 pm »

I just did a gig with my Ui24 where I ran the headphone outs into an IEM Tx.  The headphones into a belt pack Rx.  Worked great.  Full mobility.

This is exactly the idea I was just kicking around in my head for use with my X32 rack. Thanks for the proof of concept.

Did you delay the headphones to time align to your "FOH"?

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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2020, 09:47:18 pm »

You can try Soundcaster.
I use it to have wireless cue.

You can run it on the ipad at the same time as the console control software.
You need a mac on the other end but I always have my laptop by the console.

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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2020, 09:47:27 pm »

The problem with using the headphone jack on the tablet is the latency of WIFi. While this would be less of an issue with running sound from FOH compared to a singer trying to use it, it seems as manufacturers simply haven't found it important or of high enough quality to put it into their products.

With WIFI 6, the latency issues should be solvable so maybe we'll start seeing this in the next few years.  It sure would be helpful!
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2020, 12:35:50 am »

This is exactly the idea I was just kicking around in my head for use with my X32 rack. Thanks for the proof of concept.

Did you delay the headphones to time align to your "FOH"?

That's exactly what I do with my A&H QU Pac when I know I'll be needing some quick handy PFL.

Along those same lines I use a wireless headset mic for talk back, for that I actually have the receiver mounted in the rack with the mixer.

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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2020, 04:09:35 pm »

This is exactly the idea I was just kicking around in my head for use with my X32 rack. Thanks for the proof of concept.

Did you delay the headphones to time align to your "FOH"?

Tiny bar gig and way too loud from the stage, so I only needed to hear the soloed vocals to fiddle.
If I was in a proper venue I would look into that, but if you're walking around, any delay is only good at one distance anyway.
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2020, 12:43:41 am »

The problem with using the headphone jack on the tablet is the latency of WIFi. While this would be less of an issue with running sound from FOH compared to a singer trying to use it, it seems as manufacturers simply haven't found it important or of high enough quality to put it into their products.
Just curious, would you how much latency are we talking about?  My use case would be for walking around when Iím 50-75ms/ft in front of the mains anyway. 
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Re: Using headphone in iPad/tablets?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2020, 09:20:08 am »

Just curious, would you how much latency are we talking about?  My use case would be for walking around when Iím 50-75ms/ft in front of the mains anyway.

Latency aside, how would you  feed the headphone out on the iPad in the first place?  Granted, I've never actually checked it out(and I'm nowhere near a mixer to try) but to the best of my knowledge none of the mixing apps I've worked with send sound to the tablet output, do they?
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