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Dennis Wiggins

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Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« on: October 21, 2019, 05:22:21 pm »

Has anyone had any bad experiences (reliability, early limiting (pumping), intermittent shutting down) with the Behringer NX4-6000? The online reviews are very scarce.

I am only needing 400-500 WRMS @ 8Ohms x 4. All channels will be high-passed BW24 @35Hz, or higher, and will never be running 2 Ohm loads.

It would only be used 3-4 times per year, so I am not willing to make a higher investment as I am accomplishing the same thing now with a pair of original (silver) IPR3000s. They are just right for my purposes.

I would just want to "shrink the rig" a bit.
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Re: Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2019, 05:40:08 pm »

That amp only puts out ~48 volts continuous / channel so about 276 w into 8 ohms which is about 2 dB's lower than you had hoped for. The IPR3000's are closer to 58 volts / channel continuous.
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Re: Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2019, 05:53:33 pm »

I have 3, bought from a forum member.

The 48v is a hard limit. It has no oomph beyond 48v.

That said... bridge a pair and it does quite well into an 18" sub.

No issues with the amps so far, all measure very well.
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Dennis Wiggins

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Re: Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2019, 06:02:21 pm »

That amp only puts out ~48 volts continuous / channel

Hmm... In reality then,  I can probably expect about 250@8, 500@4, and about 1000@2. That's a long way from 6000(!), but may do for lower volume (dinner music and talking-head) gigs.

 My socks are still on, and my head has no room. ;)

There will typically be 4 Sb122s (2/channel) and 2-Sx300s (1/channel).

I also do a lot of mix and match with Peavey Impulse100/1012, DXR10/12 and EV ZXa1-Sub, EV ZXa1 and ZX1 cabs. This is just another tool.
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Re: Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2019, 06:23:50 pm »

...The 48v is a hard limit. It has no oomph beyond 48v...

Does it, at least, limit gracefully, or does it "pump"?

As you you can tell, I'm a bit wary... I am comfortable with the the "feel" * of the IPR 3000s, but would probably find the NX4 a bit "squishy."

* I am a DJ, and hitting the limiters is what I listen for - been doin' it since '78 - I ain't gonna change.

It's kind of like when you twist the grip and hit the power band. You let up.

Unless you don't. That's when the limiters save you ;D

(Specifically, I have my VXS26s set to 'knee' at the same level that DDT would kick in on the IPRs. It's pretty idiot-proof; the idiot being me.)
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Re: Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2019, 09:25:28 pm »

I would just want to "shrink the rig" a bit.


Going from two IPR3000's to one nx4-6000 saves you a whopping 1.6 lbs! I think you've reached the point of diminishing returns.

DDT circuitry is about as graceful as a limiter as you are going to get built into an amplifier. There is no knee on the nx4-6000, it just flatlines at 48 volts, however you could set up your DSP to ease into your desired limit.



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Dennis Wiggins

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Re: Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2019, 12:19:29 pm »


Going from two IPR3000's to one nx4-6000 saves you a whopping 1.6 lbs! I think you've reached the point of diminishing returns.

DDT circuitry is about as graceful as a limiter as you are going to get built into an amplifier. There is no knee on the nx4-6000, it just flatlines at 48 volts, however you could set up your DSP to ease into your desired limit.

That finishes it off, as it coincides with what Nathan also said about about how it acts when "hitting the rail". 

Thanks to All. End of story.

 
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Re: Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2019, 10:49:31 am »

I have 3, bought from a forum member.

The 48v is a hard limit. It has no oomph beyond 48v.

That said... bridge a pair and it does quite well into an 18" sub.

No issues with the amps so far, all measure very well.
Nathan,

The NX4-6000 are a fairly recent addition to the Behringer line, notice any differences between them and the three NU4-6000 I sold you?

Art
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Re: Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2019, 01:40:13 pm »


Going from two IPR3000's to one nx4-6000 saves you a whopping 1.6 lbs! I think you've reached the point of diminishing returns.


... and halved your rack size.

I have a couple of NX4-6000s. One ran monitors (replaced with a Powersoft T304) and the other lived with a DCX2496 for smaller events. Both did fine. The monitor amp had an easy life at 8ohm/ch, but the one being used for smaller events would often run with Ch1 & 2 driving 8ohm/ch, and then Ch3/4 bridged into a pair of subs.

Both have always done the job for me, and never sounded bad. The Powersoft T-series sounds better, but with that price difference it's to be expected.

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Re: Behringer NX4-6000 reliability?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2019, 08:55:12 am »

Nathan,

The NX4-6000 are a fairly recent addition to the Behringer line, notice any differences between them and the three NU4-6000 I sold you?

Art

Awe man, you nicely told me I was wrong! What a great guy!

I have 3, bought from a forum member.

The 48v is a hard limit. It has no oomph beyond 48v.

That said... bridge a pair and it does quite well into an 18" sub.

No issues with the amps so far, all measure very well.


So yeah, Dennis, what I posted was about the older model NU4 NOT the new NX4 you asked about.
Sorry. Thanks Art.
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