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Scott Helmke

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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2019, 09:58:01 am »

Thanks for the re-schedule info. I had not realized they combined Phase and 6 and 8 for Chicago. I had expected to re-coordinate again in January.

Bryan, where is your venue located?  You've got more ch. 32 than I'm seeing in the northern suburbs.
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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2019, 05:00:12 pm »

Bryan, where is your venue located?  You've got more ch. 32 than I'm seeing in the northern suburbs.

This is from West Chicago (601085). I didn't expect as much power as we saw on a few channels (26, 30). But we were able to avoid them so it worked out.
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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2019, 07:43:28 pm »

There may well be future changes in the relative strengths of the various TV stations.  The ones hosted on Willis (aka Sears) Tower, which is most of them, are still working on their infrastructure there and using auxiliary transmitters in the meantime.
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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2019, 04:01:18 pm »

There may well be future changes in the relative strengths of the various TV stations.  The ones hosted on Willis (aka Sears) Tower, which is most of them, are still working on their infrastructure there and using auxiliary transmitters in the meantime.
^^^^This is a really important point, and one that I suspect applies in many areas. The final post re-pack landscape is most likely something that won't be known until all infrastructure changes are done, and that may take another year or so.
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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2019, 08:27:55 pm »

^^^^This is a really important point, and one that I suspect applies in many areas. The final post re-pack landscape is most likely something that won't be known until all infrastructure changes are done, and that may take another year or so.

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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2019, 10:01:57 pm »

Maybe its time to convince our clients that dragging around fifty feet of Belden  8412 is what the cool kids do.

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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2019, 10:20:53 pm »

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

Not just the fundamentals but the intermod products will change too (along with our favorite, transient IM products).

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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2019, 09:57:24 am »

At my main venue we finally lost use of a ten year old AT rf mic in our ballroom.  Knew it was coming, but the repack weekend killed it.

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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2019, 10:08:43 pm »

I had to do an RF coordination for an association meeting downtown a few days after the repack - had a total of 31 channels (ULXD G50 & H50, Axient digital A-band) in a general session and 10 breakouts. I too found out (the hard way) that Shure's database lookup is NOT accurate! I shot Shure a rather harsh E-mail about this, their response was that the Spectrum Bridge database Workbench pulls from is NOT up to date.

So I surfed the FCC's Web site and bookmarked these pages for TV channel lookup:

https://www.fcc.gov/media/television/tv-query (TV stations)
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchAdvanced.jsp (Public Safety channels)

I found the TV station lookup results easy enough to sift through at a glance (meaning I'm comfortable working with them "under the gun" on a show site), but the public safety channel lookup for Chicago produced some two pages of results, which show ONLY the licensee name - each result has to be clicked on to reveal frequency!

I figure local scans will be fine for revealing active TV stations, but I'm hoping Workbench can still be counted on for public safety channel lookup!

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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2019, 11:06:32 am »

I had to do an RF coordination for an association meeting downtown a few days after the repack - had a total of 31 channels (ULXD G50 & H50, Axient digital A-band) in a general session and 10 breakouts. I too found out (the hard way) that Shure's database lookup is NOT accurate! I shot Shure a rather harsh E-mail about this, their response was that the Spectrum Bridge database Workbench pulls from is NOT up to date.

Given the state of UHF-TV band spectrum today, and the wireless demands and expectations of event producers, providing RF coordination services should include having the means to actually look at the spectrum in real time, e.g. having a spectrum analyzer. Anything less is selling you and your clients short.

Anger at Shure, or any manufacturer, for not providing accurate spectrum information is completely misplaced: First, for the reason stated above, but also because the information they pass on to the user is only as good as the FCC databases, which are not as up to date as they should be.


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So I surfed the FCC's Web site and bookmarked these pages for TV channel lookup:

https://www.fcc.gov/media/television/tv-query (TV stations)
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchAdvanced.jsp (Public Safety channels)

I found the TV station lookup results easy enough to sift through at a glance (meaning I'm comfortable working with them "under the gun" on a show site), but the public safety channel lookup for Chicago produced some two pages of results, which show ONLY the licensee name - each result has to be clicked on to reveal frequency!

Try the FCC's Site/Market/Frequency database lookup which pulls from all the individual FCC databases, and shows all the information for a given licensee including frequency in a single line. Be sure to check off "Data Export:  Format output for raw data export" at the lower left; this returns results in CSV format which can be copy and pasted into an excel spreadsheet, then sorted by frequency, distance, etc.

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I figure local scans will be fine for revealing active TV stations, but I'm hoping Workbench can still be counted on for public safety channel lookup!

Simple: See 47CFR Part 74.870(c)(4)
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Re: Chicago is now post-repack
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2019, 11:06:32 am »


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