ProSoundWeb Community

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Pages: 1 2 3 [All]   Go Down

Author Topic: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps  (Read 4240 times)

Bob Faulkner

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1502
  • Raleigh, NC
Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« on: October 16, 2019, 12:53:35 PM »

Over the past few years, people have posted questions/comments about cable covers, where to get them, price, quality, etc...  I'm looking at getting a few from DiscountRamps.    Will be used mostly for areas where vehicular traffic is present.  I'm considering ramps with the tray doors (no lay overs).

Question - the ends of the ramps that allow for interlocking with other ramps...  Anyone have issues with the interlocking part(s) breaking, bending, or becoming of no use? 

Question - looks like there's ramps made of rubber and ramps (perhaps) made from a polyurethane/plastic composite.  Is one better than the other? Are they the same?


Logged

Tim McCulloch

  • SR Forums
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23773
  • Wichita, Kansas USA
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2019, 02:00:14 PM »

The original Yellow Jacket cable protector was made from 100% polyurethane by a company called Peterson Systems (their other main product was roller coaster and material handling wheels, IIRC).  I think Peterson sold the name and IP to someone else a few years ago but not absolutely sure about that...

The other brands - I'm not sure what the materials are.

We have Yellow Jackets in our inventory and have never had a connector failure.  In fact I'm not sure we've had any kind of failure... I attribute some of that to the polyurethane.  We've got some smaller cable protectors of a different brand, that are made of an unknown plastic and have had 2 coupler of breaks in 100 pieces.
Logged
"If you're passing on your way, from Palm Springs to L.A., Give a wave to good ol' Dave, Say hello to progress and goodbye to the Moonlight Motor Inn." - Steve Spurgin, Moonlight Motor Inn

Tim Hite

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1221
    • Bad Quail
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2019, 02:48:56 PM »

I think Checkers Safety or LEX are the places to go for the good stuff. It's expensive.

The cheap ramps don't really lock together in the first place, so you tend to end up with displaced ramps rather than broken connectors.

The cheap ramps made from "rubber" off-gas something noxious. Mine required a scrubbing with Purple Power degreaser and a bake in the desert sun to get the smell out most of the way.
Logged
Bad Quail
Sound + Light + Image
Joshua Tree, California
Authorized Dealer for all this stuff

Dave Garoutte

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3403
  • San Rafael, CA
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2019, 07:45:48 PM »

I have a bunch of the smelly cheap ramps.
They are perfect for the small shows I do.
I just left them outside for two weeks to outgas before I put them in the truck, where they live.
Logged
Nothing can be made idiot-proof; only idiot resistant.

Events.  Stage, PA, Lighting and Backline rentals.
Chauvet dealer.  Home of the Angler.
Inventor.  And now, Streaming Video!

Mike Pyle

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1219
  • Santa Rosa, CA
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2019, 09:15:49 PM »

Checkers 5 channel Guard Dogs with the "dogbone" connector are the ones I own, and the most common that I see in use elswhere. That is important if you need to rent a few (or a few hundred) extras that will mate up.

https://www.amazon.com/GD5X125-Polyurethane-Channel-Protector-Connector/dp/B004UMT88E

I was a dealer for a while, then Checkers decided that California should have just ONE distributor. Since then I can buy them online cheaper than the so-called distributor offers them. I know that Checkers used to offer direct sales though to some venues and soundcos, so you might try calling them.
Logged
Mike Pyle  Audiopyle Sound  707-315-6204
Dealer For: JBL, Soundcraft, Crown, dbx, AKG, Yorkville, EV, QSC, RCF, FBT, Danley Sound Labs, Meyer Sound, Fulcrum Acoustic, Tannoy, Lab Gruppen, Powersoft, Linea Research, EAW, Allen & Heath, Ashly, APB, Audix, One Systems, Presonus, K&M, Ultimate, Global Truss, Intellistage, SKB, Gator, Radial Engineering, Turbosound, Midas, dB Technologies, American DJ, Odyssey, ProCo, Rapco, CBI, Elation, Mipro, Chauvet, Blizzard, Shure, Whirlwind, Bassboss, Yamaha, Line 6, Behringer, On-Stage, more...

Bob Faulkner

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1502
  • Raleigh, NC
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2019, 10:40:47 PM »

Thanks for the responses and suggestions!

Appears the cheaper ones don't connect well?  I may only need 30-40ft, to cover entry ways where vehicles drive; they wouldn't be used all the time.
Logged

Bob Faulkner

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1502
  • Raleigh, NC
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2019, 08:25:39 AM »

Any experiences with these people:

https://www.electriduct.com/cable-protectors.html

Looks like they carry rubber and polyurethane ramps as well as ADA compliant ones.  They had few Yellow Jacket models.  Prices appear to be good.  I searched for "polyurethane" on the discountramps website, nothing returned.  If polyurethane is better (take more abuse, won't break under normal usage), I'm willing to pay for it.
Logged

Dan Mortensen

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1082
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2019, 09:41:20 AM »

I bought a dozen from Discount Ramps, and the interconnects have been fine for the dozen or so times I've used them.

The smell was overpowering, though, and no amount of scrubbing (not using Purple Power or whatever, alas) did not abate to tolerable until they sat outside in the PNW for 3 years, and now it's only noticeable when you are in their direct vicinity and not anywhere in a large ballroom.

Wouldn't buy again.
Logged

Doug Johnson

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 270
  • Rhoadesville, VA
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2019, 10:46:51 AM »

I bought about 75 ft of cheap Chinese cable ramp off of ebay about two years ago.  They did smell right out of the box but, I just left them outside of a while and it went away.  On one piece the female connector had plastic from the molding process I had to cut and the wires for the hinges tends to want to fall out on a few.  Other than that they have worked well for me.
Logged

Bob Faulkner

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1502
  • Raleigh, NC
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2019, 02:25:33 PM »

Thanks again for the responses. 


Logged

Tim Hite

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1221
    • Bad Quail
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2019, 11:20:53 PM »

I bought about 75 ft of cheap Chinese cable ramp off of ebay about two years ago.  They did smell right out of the box but, I just left them outside of a while and it went away.  On one piece the female connector had plastic from the molding process I had to cut and the wires for the hinges tends to want to fall out on a few.  Other than that they have worked well for me.

Give the ramp a couple whacks with a hammer on the wire while it's running through the cover and ramp. It will bend the wire a bit and will stay together better.

Logged
Bad Quail
Sound + Light + Image
Joshua Tree, California
Authorized Dealer for all this stuff

Kemper Watson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 710
  • Woodstock GA
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2019, 07:57:19 PM »

Give the ramp a couple whacks with a hammer on the wire while it's running through the cover and ramp. It will bend the wire a bit and will stay together better.

Reminds me of my Grandfather's quote. If it don't fit don't force it. Just get a bigger man with a bigger hammer
Logged

Dave Garoutte

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3403
  • San Rafael, CA
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2019, 03:23:04 PM »

Reminds me of my Grandfather's quote. If it don't fit don't force it. Just get a bigger man with a bigger hammer
The idea is to bend the pin slightly so it doesn't slip.
Logged
Nothing can be made idiot-proof; only idiot resistant.

Events.  Stage, PA, Lighting and Backline rentals.
Chauvet dealer.  Home of the Angler.
Inventor.  And now, Streaming Video!

Tim Hite

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1221
    • Bad Quail
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2019, 03:22:37 PM »

I just bought 100 ft of ramps off eBay and they are much much nicer than the first batch I got. The tabs lock together and they don't smell of sin and the tears of child laborers.

Logged
Bad Quail
Sound + Light + Image
Joshua Tree, California
Authorized Dealer for all this stuff

Dan Mortensen

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1082
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2019, 03:52:31 PM »

The tabs lock together and they don't smell of sin and the tears of child laborers.

Poetic!
Logged

Dave Garoutte

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3403
  • San Rafael, CA
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2019, 04:39:45 PM »

I just bought 100 ft of ramps off eBay and they are much much nicer than the first batch I got. The tabs lock together and they don't smell of sin and the tears of child laborers.

That's just because they have the right cleaner to remove that smell.
Logged
Nothing can be made idiot-proof; only idiot resistant.

Events.  Stage, PA, Lighting and Backline rentals.
Chauvet dealer.  Home of the Angler.
Inventor.  And now, Streaming Video!

Bob Faulkner

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1502
  • Raleigh, NC
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2019, 07:15:35 PM »

What brand did you get?  Also, how many channels do the ramps support?
Logged

Tim Hite

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1221
    • Bad Quail
Logged
Bad Quail
Sound + Light + Image
Joshua Tree, California
Authorized Dealer for all this stuff

Mal Brown

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1340
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2019, 08:40:00 PM »

Are those really a 3 pack for $41 ?   When i bought a couple of years back they were a little under $40 a unit...
Logged
Bass player, sound guy.
FB Gorge Sound and Light
FB Willyand Nelson
FB SideShow

Dave Garoutte

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3403
  • San Rafael, CA
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2019, 09:15:38 PM »

Are those really a 3 pack for $41 ?   When i bought a couple of years back they were a little under $40 a unit...
Each.
Logged
Nothing can be made idiot-proof; only idiot resistant.

Events.  Stage, PA, Lighting and Backline rentals.
Chauvet dealer.  Home of the Angler.
Inventor.  And now, Streaming Video!

Tim Hite

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1221
    • Bad Quail
Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2019, 11:52:37 AM »

Are those really a 3 pack for $41 ?   When i bought a couple of years back they were a little under $40 a unit...

Yes Mal, they are indeed a 3 pack for $41. Get some while you can. I'll be buying more.

You can fit 80' of it in a half-caddy 22x45.
Logged
Bad Quail
Sound + Light + Image
Joshua Tree, California
Authorized Dealer for all this stuff

ProSoundWeb Community

Re: Cable protectors / DiscountRamps
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2019, 11:52:37 AM »


Pages: 1 2 3 [All]   Go Up
 



Site Hosted By Ashdown Technologies, Inc.

Page created in 0.04 seconds with 24 queries.