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Is there a basic LED "ACL" bar or just single light?

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Tim Hite:

--- Quote from: Tim Weaver on October 15, 2019, 06:16:31 pm ---Set them up with some haze. Just doing automatic epilepsy mode.

By themselves in the dark
https://i.imgur.com/6HWOEGY.mp4

With the wall wash
https://i.imgur.com/nwQfjqz.mp4

Wall wash and rear wash together.
https://i.imgur.com/RZLdACY.mp4

Full spaz mode. This is what is running during the hype-up bit while kids are entering. It's a youth church service.
https://i.imgur.com/nKZJKs2.mp4

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Thanks for the videos, I was wondering if these Saber spots would stand up for use like this as stage highlights. Guess they will be OK. I just got my in and I'm underwhelmed with the jerky color fades on the auto shows.

Brian Jojade:
I have yet to see a budget LED light recreate the true look and feel of the vintage ACL lights.  The color spectrum, the beam pattern, the intensity and the cooling time and temperature change of the lamp are all pieces that go into the effect.

Now, a close second place that I've used in small venues that is truly dirt cheap is 300 watt halogen work lights.

You can find them for about 10 bucks each. Remove the existing floor bracket and bend your own and it looks like something that belongs on a truss.

Yeah, they aren't LEDs, and draw more current, but you're likely only using them for a few seconds at a time, so that's not that huge of a concern, as long as you wire them up correctly.

Steve-White:
I have Intimidator 260's and a pair of Intimidator 375's that I'm happy with.  Wasn't sure if you wanted anything like that.

Have a look at these, Inno Pocket Z4.  The zoom works fantastic and color and motion is real good too - responsive and quiet.  Real versatile little lights - flood, wash or spot.

https://www.adj.com/inno-pocket-z4

Rick Powell:
I haven't ordered or seen these but they are 40 watts, RGBW, and a manual zoom of 4 to 60 degrees, and fairly inexpensive if you can deal with ordering direct from PRC.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LEAHUA-Wedding-40W-led-pinspot-light_1600076636378.html?spm=a2700.themePage.1022881076417.9.219c5d28V7DL43

Tim Weaver:
Back from the dead I see.



--- Quote from: Tim Hite on October 16, 2019, 01:56:13 pm ---\

Thanks for the videos, I was wondering if these Saber spots would stand up for use like this as stage highlights. Guess they will be OK. I just got my in and I'm underwhelmed with the jerky color fades on the auto shows.

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I don't notice it on DMX. These would most likely be fine for edge-of-stage fixtures, but they aren't the cheapest thing out there and they don't wiggle.



--- Quote from: Brian Jojade on April 14, 2021, 07:10:39 pm ---I have yet to see a budget LED light recreate the true look and feel of the vintage ACL lights.  The color spectrum, the beam pattern, the intensity and the cooling time and temperature change of the lamp are all pieces that go into the effect.

Now, a close second place that I've used in small venues that is truly dirt cheap is 300 watt halogen work lights.


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These two things are not equal. The halogen work light has long been a staple "crowd blinder" on the club level for decades. But they do not throw beams, which was the point of an ACL. For my use these Saber Spots can kinda-sorta replicate a decent fat beam on a small stage setting. Bonus is that the change color.


--- Quote from: Steve-White on April 14, 2021, 11:29:09 pm ---I have Intimidator 260's and a pair of Intimidator 375's that I'm happy with.  Wasn't sure if you wanted anything like that.

Have a look at these, Inno Pocket Z4.

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These were on my short list, but were a little too pricy for this project. I didn't need moving fixtures even though it would have been fun to have.



--- Quote from: Rick Powell on April 15, 2021, 12:55:00 am ---I haven't ordered or seen these but they are 40 watts, RGBW, and a manual zoom of 4 to 60 degrees, and fairly inexpensive if you can deal with ordering direct from PRC.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LEAHUA-Wedding-40W-led-pinspot-light_1600076636378.html?spm=a2700.themePage.1022881076417.9.219c5d28V7DL43


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I mean, give them a try, but I don't think you'll get the same effect out of these. I'm guessing that the light will come out of the lens, get narrower at a focal point, then spread again at some random angle. This is not collimated light like a true "beam" fixture. Plus the beam will probably not consistently mix the colors.

The Saber spots are completely different optically, which is part of why they are 100 bucks a piece.

That's not to say these pinspots wouldn't work fine for doing pinspot suff. I'm sure they will.

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