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[Brian Bolly]

System must include 4 monitor mixes, and be usable for a typical bar band for maybe a couple hundred meat sponges in the audience. Lets say at least 16 channels on the desk, headless is OK since we are all about saving space!

What gear would you use? How would you package it? What tricks to make load in/out easier?

Hit me!

Band-on-ears scenario (could be up to 5 pieces, drummer hardwired)

MAIN PA
(2) Meyer Sound ULTRA-X40 mains with covers/bags
(2) Meyer Sound 750-LFC subs with covers/bags

HEAD END
(1) Circle Three Designs 6U Aluminum Fly Rack in a Pelican Air 1637 loaded with:
(1) SurgeX SX1115R
(1) Midas M32C loaded with DN32 ADAT card
(1) Klang:Vier
(1) PWS UX-4
(2) Shure P10T
(1) Ubiquiti AC-Mesh WAP with bracket/clamp
(1) Custom I/O panel on the back including 20A Powercon blue input

(1) Circle Three Designs 6U Aluminum Fly Rack in a Pelican Air 1637 loaded with:
(1) Shure QLXD4Q
(1) Midas DL32 or DL16
(1) 2U Drawer for Shure P10RA + QLXD1/2 Tx
(1) Custom I/O panel on the back including 20A Powercon blue input

UTILITY
(1) Pelican 1637 Air loaded with:
(6+) OA Windsor 3PC Powercon/Edison boxes
Multiple Powercon jumpers (since everything else is powercon)
Multiple Powercon to Edison cables
Edison Extensions
XLR/Powercon looms for the speakers
XLR/CAT5 loom for the head end to stage rack
XLR loom for drums
XLR kit + hardwired mics for the stage

Band on wedges?  Ditch the Klang/P10T rig and add in some powered wedges du jour - Meyer Sound MJF208 for the high end/compact form factor.

[Tim Weaver]

Band-on-ears scenario (could be up to 5 pieces, drummer hardwired)

MAIN PA
(2) Meyer Sound ULTRA-X40 mains with covers/bags
(2) Meyer Sound 750-LFC subs with covers/bags

HEAD END
(1) Circle Three Designs 6U Aluminum Fly Rack in a Pelican Air 1637 loaded with:
(1) SurgeX SX1115R
(1) Midas M32C loaded with DN32 ADAT card
(1) Klang:Vier
(1) PWS UX-4
(2) Shure P10T
(1) Ubiquiti AC-Mesh WAP with bracket/clamp
(1) Custom I/O panel on the back including 20A Powercon blue input

(1) Circle Three Designs 6U Aluminum Fly Rack in a Pelican Air 1637 loaded with:
(1) Shure QLXD4Q
(1) Midas DL32 or DL16
(1) 2U Drawer for Shure P10RA + QLXD1/2 Tx
(1) Custom I/O panel on the back including 20A Powercon blue input

UTILITY
(1) Pelican 1637 Air loaded with:
(6+) OA Windsor 3PC Powercon/Edison boxes
Multiple Powercon jumpers (since everything else is powercon)
Multiple Powercon to Edison cables
Edison Extensions
XLR/Powercon looms for the speakers
XLR/CAT5 loom for the head end to stage rack
XLR loom for drums
XLR kit + hardwired mics for the stage

Band on wedges?  Ditch the Klang/P10T rig and add in some powered wedges du jour - Meyer Sound MJF208 for the high end/compact form factor.

Lol. I guess you are loading this into your Lamborghinin Urus then?


Nice choices, but I'd invest in a nice trailer or sprinter van to haul gear this nice.

[Martin Morris]

Art Welter's custom monitors (smaller and sound better than K12's)

?? I've not heard about these - DIY forum? - link? ... cheers

[Jeff Bankston]

back  in the day we used 1 cabinet  on each side  of the stage. we used VOT, or 15"  scoop with a horn, or a home  made 15",12",horn stack. we never used  or needed a monitor mix in those bars. guitar,bass,keyboards were plenty loud with their stage amps.  drums were usually plenty loud but sometimes hihats were in  the pa. vocals were about the only  thing in the pa. a pair of used JBL SRX          cabinets should do  the job just  fine. 12  channel board.

[Andy Olsen]

You guys rule!
This is exactly what I am dealing with right now.
I love this forum.
Can’t say I know all the gear you refer to.
I have pack space 7 feet long,4 feet wide,and 3 feet tall.
I have big bag for light stands
1 large keyboard case for 2 T-bars of LED’s
1 smaller case for extra lights and cables.
On order with Mike Pyle
2 DZR12’s
2 Ig4T’s
1 QuPac
Gotta work out the rest. Probably 2 Captivator 212.

[Tommy Peel]

I'm pretty happy with my rig that fits in my Focus ST Hatchback.

2x Yamaha DBR10 tops
1x Yamaha DXS12mkII sub(could fit 2; currently own 1)
1x Plastic tub of various cables, DIs, and mics
1x 4u Shallow Rack with
    XR18
    WiFi AP velcro'd to the back of the XR18 so I can stick it somewhere with better line of sight to FOH
    Rack mount power strip with 15ft cable and plugs on the front and back (whole rig can easily run off one circuit)
2x Ultimate Support speaker stands

I mix on a Samsung tablet with an iPad and laptop as backup.

I could easily add a second sub and a few more powered speakers for monitors and still fit it in the car. The sub and 2 tops I have now will fit behind the rear seat in the "trunk" area. Definitely not the loudest rig listed here, but I'm all in for around $2500 and it suits my needs.

[Mark Baker]

i carry the band PA + some lighting, and my own personal Guitar and vocal gear.

Volvo V70 estate.

2 x panel floods + 2 x 8ch 15m snakes  in rear footwells.

1 light stand bag and bag with 3x mic stands, 2 x guitar stands

2 QSC ksub
2 QSC K12
4u rack case with UI24
4u rack case with 5 way wireless IEM system
1  qsc  k12 for mons,
1x qsc k8 for mons
2 x milk crate type boxes, 1 with power leads / extensions etc, 1 with XLR and 1/4  leads

1 small suit case size case containing receivers, mics, picks , tools, DB meter, cable checker, battery chargers

line 6 helix floorboard in full flight case, 2x guitars in soft bags.

2nd flight cased pedal board containg helix stomp+pedals in case of breakdown

computer bag with lap top for cat tethered connection and 2 ipads for wireless desk control.

and that still leaves the front passenger seat free.

Amazing  really what you can get in a normal family car, if you plan it properly.

[Chris Doyle]

I get this in a Honda CRV:
2 K12s
1 DXS15
XR18 in soft case
4-5 piece drumkit
Drum hardware case(I use a golf bag travel case with wheels)
Cymbal bag
Bag of mic stands and other various items
Mic soft case
laptop
Cable wrangler
folding cart
All this fits well when placed in precisely the same order.  Now I just got a 6 space SKB rack for the XR18, plus a power conditioner and a rack drawer.  It will take quite a bit of re-configuring, but I think I can still get it all in.
 

[scottstephens]

Guys

2015 Honda Pilot: All of this lays on top of a drum rug, 2-PRX718, 2-PRX 812, 4-JBL MRX 512 Monitors, QU-16 in case, 1 case holding mic cables, 1 holding electric stuff
 6 stands laying on the floor behind the seats, Also 2 speaker stands, 1 case holding a dozen mics and 4 Di's and 1 4space rack holding 2xti 4002's, 1- misc. case and a 16x4 100ft. snake in an old Yamaha drum case.  It all fits, but barely. 

Scott

[Art Welter]

Quote from: Nathan Riddle on August 13, 2019, 04:53:03 pm
    Art Welter's custom monitors (smaller and sound better than K12's)

?? I've not heard about these - DIY forum? - link? ... cheers

Martin,

Sorry, no build link, and Nathan owns the only four built in 2012. The plywood horns were a lot of work!
They use Eminence Alpha 8" and PSD 2002 HF drivers, some "leftovers" dating back to before the turn of the century.
Cute little things, but for really small DIY monitors I'd suggest using higher power 8" or 10" co-axial drivers.

Art

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