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Kevin_Tisdall

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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2019, 04:36:00 pm »

Think you can do it? This is a thought exercise but I am seriously considering doing just that. I sold my last trailer a couple years ago! Typical mid-sized SUV. Think CRV, Forerunner, Explorer type.

System must include 4 monitor mixes, and be usable for a typical bar band for maybe a couple hundred meat sponges in the audience. Lets say at least 16 channels on the desk, headless is OK since we are all about saving space!

What gear would you use? How would you package it? What tricks to make load in/out easier?

Hit me!

I carry the following for a 5 piece beatles clone band (with extra keys player).  In a toyota tacoma pickup with cap.  Sometimes a little less for other bands.

X32 Rack with SL32 snake (same rack)
6 RCF NX12-sma wedges
2 DSR112 tops
4 EV zxa1 powered subs (12" - yes I know then are barely subs)
Gator Mic case
Mic wire Case (carries 6 DI's and some misc cables)
Power cables case (Wire cases are both home depot plastic flip top tubs)
Stage Snakes (3)
Extra power cables with quad boxes (3)
2 bags of mic stands (on-stage bags)
Bag of pa stands
pair of chauvet mini 4-bar lights and pair of 12ft stands.
laptop/ipad bag.
Dolly/hand truck.

Id love to have a bigger front end or at least some better subs but I'd need a truck or trailer and it's just not warranted.

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Nathan Riddle

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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2019, 04:53:03 pm »

Oh, this sounds like fun!

Let's see... My plan is to have a financial benefactor :P so that money is no object :D

SM80M (no subs) [SM100 + TH-Mini (Subs)]
Art Welter's custom monitors (smaller and sound better than K12's)
DXR, CDD, RCF, DZR or similar if powered [swap main amp too]

6U Rack (A):
1U - Shure SBRC
1U - ULXD4Q (4x units, KSM9 heads)
2U - Drawer for wireless mics

6U Rack (B):
Rear - Ubiquiti AC-Mesh & intel NUC (waves MT or plugins)
3U - dLive CDM32 waves card
1U - APC Battery Backup
2U - Linea Research 88C20 (4ch monitor, 2ch sub, 2ch mains)

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If I get a FOH:
C1500 (run supercat)
IP8

If I don't:
1U (rack A) - PSM300 & ULXD1 (FOH: cans & remote iTunes)
Surface Pro 5/6 & portable battery
IP8

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Crate 1 (Speakon):
4x 50ft 16awg for monitors
2x 50ft 14awg for main/sub
2x 75ft 14awg for main/sub

Crate 2 (AC & XLR):
50ft stage stinger for AC power
50ft 12awg for racks
50ft 12awg for stage power
16x XLR

Crate 3 (Di & Mic):
-6x Senn 904 (SnT, SnB, T1, T2, T3, T4)
-1x B91A (Kick)
-1x J48 (Bass)
-1x Magic DI (Acoustic)
-1x ProD2 (Keys)
-2x JDX48 (2x electrics)
-1x 57 (misc)
-1x 58 (misc)
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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2019, 05:26:33 pm »

Honda Odyssey, middle seats removed, rear saet folded into floor:
2x Fulcrum Acoustics TS215ac subs with removable casterboards
2x Fulcrum Acoustics FA12ac tops
6x RCF NX12sma wedges
2x 42x16 casterboards (for the wedges)
1x Yamaha QL1 in road case
1x 24x16x14 work trunk for XLR and other signal cables (on own casterboard)
1x 24x16x14 work trunk for AC cables (on own casterboard)
1x 24x16x14 work trunk for small mic stands
1 or 2x On-Stage stand bags for tall stands
1x SKB 3RU rack for Tripplite UPS, Triktag Powercon and Furman PDU
1x Audiopile mic locker
Backpack gack bag and anything else in the passenger seat and floor well
1x SKB 2RU rack for Yamaha Ri8 and Cisco switch
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Patrick Cognitore

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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2019, 06:03:23 pm »

Here's the system I used with my previous band, I could get my rig in my 2007 Toyota Highlander. But then I had to have the drummer transport my bass amp and cabs in his van.

2 JBL PRX718xlf subs in Tuki bags. These fit in the cargo space of the Highlander pushed against the front seats with not a centimeter to spare.
2 JBL PRX712 tops with padded covers
2 Phonic 10" wedges and Phonic powered mixer (4 small powered wedges would take up the same space)
Behringer XR18 in 4u rack case. Also transported laptop and iPad in this case.
2 hardware bags with mic stands and speaker poles
3 duffle bags with cable, mics, DI's, etc.

The Phonic system belonged to one of the singers. If I were to do it over I'd go with smaller mains and powered monitors (probably Yamaha DXR 8 or 10, and/or DZR10).

Think you can do it? This is a thought exercise but I am seriously considering doing just that. I sold my last trailer a couple years ago! Typical mid-sized SUV. Think CRV, Forerunner, Explorer type.

System must include 4 monitor mixes, and be usable for a typical bar band for maybe a couple hundred meat sponges in the audience. Lets say at least 16 channels on the desk, headless is OK since we are all about saving space!

What gear would you use? How would you package it? What tricks to make load in/out easier?

Hit me!
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Luke Geis

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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2019, 06:15:15 pm »

+1 on using RCF NX12SMA's for both mains and monitors! Great speakers and pretty compact. Choose your sub du jour. Obviously a 16 channel digital option for a mixer. Lastly is cables, and those can fit in a couple of pelican style cases.

I have a 2001 Chevy S10 extended cab ( third door with a fold-down seat in the cab ) and I can fit 2 x JBL SRX 812's, 2 x JBL SRX 818's, a 16 space rolling rack, a rolling case with doghouse for a 16 channel digital mixer, 8 x RCF NX12SMA's, 4 x 16" pelican cases, 2 x 18" pelican cases, 3 mic cases and all my stands and loose power cables!!!!! Not one square inch of space is left and I have to drop the gate, but it all fits.

Full disclosure, I rent a trailer whenever I can. Will all that fit in an SUV? I think you can get a basic rig to fit without too much issue. I used to fit 2 X dual 15" speakers, 2 x monitors, an amp rack, a 16 channel mixer and all my mics, cables and stands into a, wait for it....... Chevy Cavalier!
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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2019, 06:21:35 pm »

I had a band drive up to Lake Tahoe to do a wedding reception for about 100 people. They could fit their instruments into their vehicle but not the PA so they rented one from me so they didn’t have to take multiple vehicles. Band was guitar, acoustic guitar, bass, keyboard and 4 piece drums.

South Lake Tahoe is about an hour and a half from my shop (which is in Washoe County above Reno)  so I decided to see if I could fit the PA in my Expedition instead of using a truck that would eat up gas.

2 EV ELX10P tops
2 EV ELX12-SP subs
2 poles

Audiopile M024 trunk with custom PA power cables that have 2 IEC to one 25’ power cord, extra IEC for mons, a few quad box 25’ power cords

M024 trunk with mics, clips and LP claws, 4 Countryman DI with 1/4 cables, Switchcraft Stereo DI with 1/8” for my iPad, 2 AT System 10 hand held wireless for Just-in-case, gaff tape

M024 trunk with 5’, 15’, 30’ and a few 50’ XLR cables

Extra 30’ and 50’ XLR left in truck

M024 trunk with 16 x100’ snake and some banjo pipe and drape panels to dress things up and a roll of 3” gaff

M024 trunk with 10’, 25’, 50’ AC cables, cube taps

2 50’ and 2 100’ AC cords in Expedition plus some extra IEC cables

4 Alto TX10 cabs for monitors

2 mic stand bags with K+M booms and Audiopile shorty booms

QSC Touchmix16

QSC Touchmix 16 as backup left in truck

Hand truck

My Show Suitcase with laptops, iPads, batteries, Whirlwind Q box, tools, Fox and Hound, measurement mic with folding table stand, etc

The Expedition was full with stuff on the front seat and floor but it all fit and I had a few spare items for the show. The EV rig is tiny but sound great and gets pretty loud for small to medium sized parties.

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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2019, 07:02:23 pm »

What noiselevel at what distance? ;)
What kind of noise?
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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2019, 08:09:31 pm »

What noiselevel at what distance? ;)
What kind of noise?

The challenge is as much as possible ;)
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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2019, 08:56:20 pm »

The challenge is as much as possible ;)

In that case-
-TW T24N speakers have a lot of output per cu ft and still sound good. 
-Subwoofers are the challenge, with as many TH118's as will fit, Powersoft X4 or DNA 20K4 power. 
-Small coax wedges like NX12SMA. 
-Mics, cables, stands - take up about the same space regardless of favorite flavor. 
-Does a tow-behind small diesel generator count?  Don't forget power distribution. 
-Some sort of headless mixer, dLive preferred. 
-Wireless IEM's instead of wedges, depending on the band - should free up space for another subwoofer. 

Vehicle - I'd look closely at available space amount and shape, and use that as a key criteria for vehicle.  A RAV4 and a Nissan NV2500, if you stretch 'SUV' to mean 'van', both carry gear but there's a huge difference in usable space.  Maybe removable seats in the NV2500, tall ceiling, so it can double as a family hauler. 
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Re: Challenge: Build a full band system that can fit in an SUV.
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2019, 09:12:50 pm »

2 x prx 618sxlf
2 x prx 612
4u rack
12 channel analog mixer
speakers stands
mic stands and mics
xlr and 12/3 soow cables

all packed into an '05 Toyota Prius.

With an SUV, I could easily add 4 more prx 612 for monitors.
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