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Randall Cook

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Re: PA upgrade recommendations please
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2019, 08:01:24 pm »

Also, the QW218 drivers ALWAYS fail at the little wire leads between the basket and the clips.  Iíve replace all 8 of my baskets with newer versions and they still continue to fail at those points.  The coils are always fine.   I thought Peavey had fixed the problem when they upgraded those little lead wires and connections, but I still end up with the same problem over time.  It just seems like too much movement wears them out and they break. 
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Re: PA upgrade recommendations please
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2019, 08:39:34 pm »

Was this only for shows using 1 SM80/side?  I didnít think two SM80 would compare to four KF650Z.  And Iím also assuming you canít run two SM80 a side since theyíre 80 degrees. 

Thatís why I considered using SM80 for smaller shows and then later get four SH46 for larger shows. 

I can still use my KF650Z until I upgrade the tops. 

I just want to replace the subs first.


We would stack 2, 650ís on top of 3, SRX 728ís per side. Two SM 80 and four or six TH 118ís (depending on the show)  replaced that setup. Throw the SM 80 on a DT 3800 with one of Nimrodís nifty tilters and the bottom of the cabinet is at 12í.
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Re: PA upgrade recommendations please
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2019, 11:51:41 am »

For Randall:  I'll plug the JTR Orbit Shifter, sight-unseen, based on reviews of LABsters I Trusteģ.  Depending on the program material you'll probably find one OS replaces 2-3 QWave (especially in the bottom half-ocatve).

JTR also has the Captivator 218PRO, which'll do 10hz lower than than the Orbit Shifter, according to the specs. This is likely at the expense of output in range above 50hz, where the OS will probably outrun it.

Not many of this model out in the wild that I've seen/heard about, but figure I'd mention it for the OP if he wants sub 30hz output from a value-priced but pro performance cabinet.

http://jtrspeakers.com/captivator-218pro.html
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Re: PA upgrade recommendations please
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2019, 01:36:03 pm »

JTR also has the Captivator 218PRO, which'll do 10hz lower than than the Orbit Shifter, according to the specs. This is likely at the expense of output in range above 50hz, where the OS will probably outrun it.

Not many of this model out in the wild that I've seen/heard about, but figure I'd mention it for the OP if he wants sub 30hz output from a value-priced but pro performance cabinet.

http://jtrspeakers.com/captivator-218pro.html

Add BassBoss as well. 

But I'd rather go with TH118XL's, more accurate/tighter sound.
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Re: PA upgrade recommendations please
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2019, 02:40:11 pm »

Anyone for Danley pricing?  PM me
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2019, 04:34:17 pm »

Add BassBoss as well. 

But I'd rather go with TH118XL's, more accurate/tighter sound.

I was trying to keep the recommendation in the OPs price range - if the Yorkville 21" he mentioned is representative of that. The Bassboss and Danley offerings are a bit of a jump from there.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2019, 06:26:28 pm »

I was trying to keep the recommendation in the OPs price range - if the Yorkville 21" he mentioned is representative of that. The Bassboss and Danley offerings are a bit of a jump from there.

I was only asked to supply 21Ēs because they wanted more than my current subs can do, not because they wanted 21Ēs specifically. 

Iím considering the TH118XL since I have power amps already, but I need to find some pricing on 4-6 of them.
From what I read and have been told, they offer what I need over my current subs; go lower, sound better, and can still produce what I need and are a good size/fit.
So, Once I get some pricing, Iíll be better able to make the decision. 

Also, as Iím not familiar, is there a specific processor needed for the Danley boxes?  If so, I would like pricing on that also. 
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Re: PA upgrade recommendations please
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2019, 09:29:08 pm »

I would start with 4 TH118XL and see how you like them.  You will not be disappointed.

4 - SH46 is quite a bit louder then 4 of your 650's. 
2 - SM80 are amazing but you will be sacrificing your mid range for lite and portable compared to your 650's.

If your looking for a one box solution I would demo a SM80F.  If you did a side by side with your current rig and the SM80F you would be amazed.  The SM80F would be clearer and very close to as loud.  If you stacked the SM80F on 2 TH118XL per side you would have everything you are wanting and more. 

Another option I would look at that fits your needs is Ramsdell SD21 Sub Engine.  He just put a new driver in them and they are ridiculous.  If I was not a Danley guy I would have a large stack of them. 
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Re: PA upgrade recommendations please
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2019, 12:22:46 am »

Okay guys, I need some help convincing the band on the TH118XL over the Yorkville 21 subs.  Theyíve worked with other providers that use the York 21 and state they want the ďfeelĒ it provides; this they want the lows from bass drops, etc.  Theyíve asked me if I have a way to demo them so they can compare.  I donít have any contacts that Iím aware of for me to demo the TH118XL.   
Iím in the Cincinnati, Ohio area if anyone can demo them.  Also, any definite input from any users of both that can give me confirmation that the TH118XL can and will give that ďfeelĒ they want?  😂
I donít want to waste money on Yorkville 21 powered subs if I donít have to. 
Thank you!
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Re: PA upgrade recommendations please
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2019, 01:13:21 am »

Okay guys, I need some help convincing the band on the TH118XL over the Yorkville 21 subs.  Theyíve worked with other providers that use the York 21 and state they want the ďfeelĒ it provides; this they want the lows from bass drops, etc.  Theyíve asked me if I have a way to demo them so they can compare.  I donít have any contacts that Iím aware of for me to demo the TH118XL.   
Iím in the Cincinnati, Ohio area if anyone can demo them.  Also, any definite input from any users of both that can give me confirmation that the TH118XL can and will give that ďfeelĒ they want?  😂
I donít want to waste money on Yorkville 21 powered subs if I donít have to. 
Thank you!

Robert Piascik who posts here has a bunch of regular TH118s and I think he is in southern OH. Not too many TH118XLs in the wild yet, so getting a demo in a particular location will probably be best coordinated thru Danley's distributor network rather than trying to find a user demo. On paper, the regular and XL versions are pretty close output-wise except for the slightly lower extension of the XLs.
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