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Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
« on: May 08, 2019, 04:03:49 am »

Is there such a thing as a combo wireless beltpack transmitter and IEM receiver in the same belt pack?


I've started playing in a blues/oldies-rock band and I've thinking about the need for a wireless mic for my saxophone and IEMs at some point. I'd like to have a single belt pack that does both, if such an animal exists.
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Re: Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2019, 04:21:15 am »

Is there such a thing as a combo wireless beltpack transmitter and IEM receiver in the same belt pack?


I've started playing in a blues/oldies-rock band and I've thinking about the need for a wireless mic for my saxophone and IEMs at some point. I'd like to have a single belt pack that does both, if such an animal exists.

I've never seen one that works as both, an act I work with would also find it handy. He actually has 3 wireless packs lol, one for his guitar, one for a vocal headset, and one for his IEMs ;D

I suppose the problem is you don't really want to have them all transmitting and receiving too close together, would be pretty tough engineering to have them built together and not interfering with each other. So as much as its a pain to have them separate, least it means you can have them on opposite sides of your body and create as much separation as possible.

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Re: Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2019, 04:24:42 am »

I suppose the problem is you don't really want to have them all transmitting and receiving too close together, so much as its a pain to have them separate, least it means you can have them on opposite sides of your body and create as much separation as possible.
Wireless coms have been doing it for decades. Maybe even longer. Seems doable to me.
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Re: Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2019, 06:50:10 am »

Wireless coms have been doing it for decades. Maybe even longer. Seems doable to me.
Yes, but with the trade-offs of being non-diversity and having limited audio bandwidth.
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Re: Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
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Re: Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2019, 07:18:11 am »


I suppose the problem is you don't really want to have them all transmitting and receiving too close together, so much as its a pain to have them separate, least it means you can have them on opposite sides of your body and create as much separation as possible.

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I've seen this question asked many times.  The answer always comes down to engineering challenges and insufficient market to justify the engineering and tooling expense.

Now if you could get half a million of your Facebook friends together to do a GoFundMe for this, it might actually get built...  :)
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Re: Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2019, 08:20:58 am »

Is there such a thing as a combo wireless beltpack transmitter and IEM receiver in the same belt pack?


I've started playing in a blues/oldies-rock band and I've thinking about the need for a wireless mic for my saxophone and IEMs at some point. I'd like to have a single belt pack that does both, if such an animal exists.
Not a RF guru, but I would expect having receiving antennae that close to a transmitter would be a serious engineering challenge....
Never mind separation of the radios in the beltpack.
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Re: Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2019, 10:21:36 am »

We have very different expectations for audio quality from comms than we do from RF mics and IEMs.  Trade offs open doors that are otherwise closed.

 
Wireless coms have been doing it for decades. Maybe even longer. Seems doable to me.

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Re: Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2019, 11:19:09 am »

We have very different expectations for audio quality from comms than we do from RF mics and IEMs.  Trade offs open doors that are otherwise closed.

Shure has leveraged the DECT spec to attempt something similar to what you are describing with the MicroFlex Series which combine RF mic transmitters [beltpacks, handhelds, etc.] with mono receivers [each of the transmitters has a mono 1/8" output on it].  It works.  But it does NOT sound as good as true professional RF systems.  I worked with a company that bought a bunch of this instead of more traditional RF systems and tried to use them in a production environment with mixed results at best.  I'm sure they work swimmingly in installed conference systems, which is what they are designed for.  But they don't hold up in critical listening situations.
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Re: Combo wireless beltpack and IEM pack?
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2019, 02:47:25 pm »

Well, bummer. That sucks. And is stupid.
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