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Jon Goin

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Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« on: April 26, 2019, 12:38:07 pm »

A VIP speaker at international conferences has a quiet voice. His Schoeps CCM41 and Audix M1280B mics have LED reading lights on the booms and need to be away from his mouth. He can't wear a headmic or lav because of mobility concerns.
I'm still looking for a mic that can pick up his voice better and reject feedback in large halls.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2019, 03:07:51 pm »

Would you kindly, fix your display/user name as per the forum rules.

https://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/board,36.0.html

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Re: Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2019, 03:39:16 pm »

Got it--I actually started out right and misunderstood that I had to change something...
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Re: Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2019, 04:21:06 pm »

Sorry, but I'm unclear how he is doing it now.

It sounds like this is a setup he takes with him to different events.
Is it wireless now?
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Re: Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2019, 05:23:38 pm »

Currently he's in a wheelchair holding notes, with either a Schoeps CCM41 or Audix 1280B on long low booms.
The mics have to be a little far back so he can move and he speaks quietly.
Anything closer would be better but I can't move in.
Boundary mics and shotguns are out--I've tried everything there.
My next attempts are Earthworks and DPA small caps with the same style of integrated cable booms.
I also just saw the idea of AKG 535Bs and have some old ones--worth a try.
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Re: Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2019, 08:18:43 pm »

Headworn mic (wired or wireless) and a separate reading light.
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Re: Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2019, 01:24:27 am »

Headworn mic (wired or wireless) and a separate reading light.
Yes that's my question, why can't you run a DPA headworn with a quality witeless?

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Re: Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2019, 06:52:32 am »

I have worked with Rick Hansen ( man in motion wheel chair guy...)and he uses a headset wireless and it works great.
As for the reading light for the notes, I take it the person has a binder or clipboard , or something, with the notes on so you could use a small LED clip light.
A tablet would be something to consider as well.
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Re: Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2019, 10:51:39 am »

I've worked with several presenters in chairs and so far they've expected an ear set mic of some kind and usually have a pretty clear idea of where the transmitter can be placed and how to dress the mic lead.  Wheel chairs present their own RF challenges regarding transmitter placement and the more sophisticated the chair the greater the challenges.

But in a wheel chair or not, sometimes we have to inform the presenter that his/her/their desires are not consistent with *effective delivery of the message* the presenter wishes to impart, and solicit the presenter's input for changes that will help accomplish presenter's goals.

edit ps - Jon, I'm sympathetic to your situation (and a bit envious of your budget) but perhaps it's worth the mention to your client that "loudest sound at the mic, wins."  Unless you can reduce the distance between capsule and voice source, any current issues will continue.  The client needs to be aware that in spite of the incredible industrial-bio technologies that give your client mobility and some dignity, those technologies do not rewrite the laws of physics.
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Re: Challenge: mic for quiet VIP speaker
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2019, 11:02:12 am »

Thank you all for the helpful info and suggestions. I don't have access to work email at home, so a little late getting back.

I understand that one can't defy basic audio/physics principles regarding mic distance and live sound, and totally agree that the ideal approach would be a headworn/wireless system.

There is also an acute sensitivity to environmental/EMF factors that preclude using headworn or wireless. A while back I conducted a shootout with top-shelf shotguns on our church stage which simulates a convention/large hotel ballroom, but even the best couldn't do it with the open loop/live sound component.

I very much appreciate the pro comments here, and will recommend that whatever mic we use, it has to be closer.
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