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Andrew Broughton

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Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« on: April 19, 2019, 03:21:07 am »

https://audiofusionsystems.com

Never thought that WiFi would allow low enough latency to work for monitors, but so far itís pretty impressive.
Wouldnít use it for IEMs as WiFi isnít reliable enough IMHO, but this certainly has its applications...
Backstage feeds, remote monitoring, cueing, etc.

Anyone given it a try yet?


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Re: Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2019, 11:23:46 am »

iFruit only.  I'll pass.
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Re: Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2019, 12:29:01 pm »

It is hard to charge for something when it may/may not work. Onsite Dubious Timewaste = Net Negative.

I smell a no-doc pressbox and all attendant liabilities.

But that is me.
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Re: Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 03:42:58 pm »

Saw and played with it at FILO last year. I haven't used it personally. I believe it was in use at a few churches with 5+ users and is reliable.

Pretty neat, I'd suggest some serious networking/wifi knowledge to make sure it works properly. I'd like to see how it does in a crowded wifi situation. WiFi is inherently unstable as designed to not interfere with other stuff.

Id like to measure the latency because their tauted "not noticable/real time" has to be a lie... maybe they mean below the perceivable 5-10ms?
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Re: Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 03:52:05 pm »

I haven't measured the latency yet but it is pretty good. I'll try and measure it today.

I just made a video on how I'm using it with bone conducting headphones to monitor the clearcom and still be able to hear the PA.

https://youtu.be/Oke4OiEd9Ms

I like it so far. Would be great for A2 work on a corporate show. Having com and a console cue but still have your ears open.

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Re: Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2019, 06:51:48 pm »

So I measured the latency. I got around 24ms. The interesting thing is it will drift. It went down to as low as 21 and as high as 26. This was tested with a ubiquiti bullet and an iphone 5s.

Perhaps it would be faster if I used newer devices.

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Re: Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 10:24:39 pm »

They claim 10ms if you use one of the recommended AP devices.
Itís free to try.


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Re: Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2019, 09:58:22 am »

I emailed them months ago asking for a spec sheet of any kind. Latency, dynamic range, frequency response, anything they had data on. I received the following reply:

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Hi Michael,

We donít have anything written I can send you.

We would strongly encourage you to download SoundCaster for free and try it for yourself in Gear Test Mode.

We simply pass through the audio from the board or audio interface and the sound quality of the iPhones are pretty well known.

I can tell you that Iíve personally used the system more than 100 times live. There have only been a handful of musicians with whom Iíve played who could even perceive the latency but all found it quite usable for live performance.

Maybe I'm prematurely an old codger but to me, an audio system with zero available specs or documentation removes itself from serious consideration in a professional application. Also, I understand there's a lot of different environments where this might be used, but to me, 10ms+ might as well be next week for IEMs. It seems a lot of folks in house of worship bands are using this thing and having success - it's probably better than whatever their monitoring system was previously in a lot of cases. But again, in my opinion, 10ms through to IEMs is just not going to cut it.
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Re: Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2019, 09:03:19 am »

~24ms latency is scary.

Yeah, intercom, pafl, etc that sounds fine.

Mission critical (computer dies, network dies, phone battery dies, wifi dies...) no thanks. I'll take my EW or PSM IEM's over that.
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Re: Audio Fusion WiFi Monitoring
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2019, 01:37:42 pm »

It's simply another option. Not for everyone but certainly can be useful if you know the limitations.
 I wonder if you get one of those lightning to Ethernet adapters it would work as a wired IEM system...
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