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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2019, 02:29:35 pm »

Hi David, I use some Orbit Shifter Pro subwoofers from JTR Speakers. 


Lots of talk about them here on the forums if you do some searching, and some independent (and very detailed) measurements have been done of them over on the data-bass website.  Roughly similar size to your W-bins, 18" folded horn with tilt-back casters and high power handling.  I have not been disappointed, which is why my two are becoming four next week.  Might be worth looking into as an option that packs a lot of power for its size/price. 
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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2019, 02:39:28 pm »

Hi David, I use some Orbit Shifter Pro subwoofers from JTR Speakers. 


Lots of talk about them here on the forums if you do some searching, and some independent (and very detailed) measurements have been done of them over on the data-bass website.  Roughly similar size to your W-bins, 18" folded horn with tilt-back casters and high power handling.  I have not been disappointed, which is why my two are becoming four next week.  Might be worth looking into as an option that packs a lot of power for its size/price.

Thanks, Iíll check those out too. Iíve seen forum posts referring to them but never really looked at them. But right now everything is worth checking out. I definitely wonít be buying something I have not demoíd though. Iím not in a hurry to buy so Iíll start looking for demo opportunities, even if I have to travel some!
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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2019, 08:11:58 pm »

Atlanta?  You're in luck.  Besides having about every major and minor brand represented in that market, it's home of Danley Sound Labs.  You might have a life-changing experience in their demo room with the W bin as your standard of comparison.

Twelve years ago LAB participant Paul Bell sponsored a subwoofer shoot out in a club in Manhattan and we spent 2 days doing TEF sweeps and listening/feeling.  The Environmental Police showed up because we were shaking an apartment on the 5th floor... across the street.  Reports in the Archive under NYC Subwoofer shootout.

Today's new subs might be +4dB in output and maybe another 1/3 octave lower for similar physical size/weight.  That's 50% fewer subs to own, transport, handle, and occupy venue space.  We've come a long, long way.

It's a great time to be in audio!  :D

I met Tim (and Ivan) at that event. Some of the subs were massive. One weighed 350 lbs. yikes. This guy from Chicago brought along a little horn loaded sub to include. While it wasnít competing with the big guys, we were blown away by it. When I got home I bought 4 of the JTR Growlers.

Last year I sold the 4 of them and the QSC PL6.0 and replaced them with 2 Danley TH118s and a 4000 watt plate amp. This gave me 2 easier to move subs, more output and lower extension and lightened up the amp rack to boot.



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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2019, 08:42:50 am »

I met Tim (and Ivan) at that event. Some of the subs were massive. One weighed 350 lbs. yikes. This guy from Chicago brought along a little horn loaded sub to include. While it wasnít competing with the big guys, we were blown away by it. When I got home I bought 4 of the JTR Growlers.

Last year I sold the 4 of them and the QSC PL6.0 and replaced them with 2 Danley TH118s and a 4000 watt plate amp. This gave me 2 easier to move subs, more output and lower extension and lightened up the amp rack to boot.



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Right now thatís kind of my deciding point. Do I get 4 of something a little smaller or 2 of something maybe a little bigger. That question may become easy once I start to demo stuff. Good food for thought though! Thanks
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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2019, 10:05:16 am »

Last year I sold the 4 of them and the QSC PL6.0 and replaced them with 2 Danley TH118s and a 4000 watt plate amp. This gave me 2 easier to move subs, more output and lower extension and lightened up the amp rack to boot.

So you have one active and one passive TH118, and installed a Speakon jumper in the powered cabinet to power the passive cabinet? I think the power module puts out 4000w at 2 ohms, which would be 2000w/speaker if using the 4 ohm drivers.
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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2019, 11:48:46 am »

If you liked the size and output of the Meyer 500-HP, then you may want to take a look at the JTR Captivator 212 Pro which is a fairly new 2 x 12" design.  A search here should turn up several threads discussing this sub and it just so happens that there is a powered pair for sale in the Marketplace right now.  By the way, the asking price for used Meyer 500-HPs seems to be around $2,000 per box.  It is a 10 year old design, but is still a current product for Meyer.  I have no idea what the new price would be for it.
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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2019, 12:45:02 pm »

...This guy from Chicago brought along a little horn loaded sub to include. While it wasnít competing with the big guys, we were blown away by it. When I got home I bought 4 of the JTR Growlers.
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I think I just bought them. Don't discount the Growler if your reference is a 20 year old W bin. 4 Growlers easily replaced, and then some, two Community VLF218 for me. The VLF218 is about the same size as the TH118. Each Growler is about half that size. For me they are easier to utilize for smaller shows where space is a concern. Put all 4 together center clustered and they get the job done!
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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2019, 04:25:28 pm »

If you liked the size and output of the Meyer 500-HP, then you may want to take a look at the JTR Captivator 212 Pro which is a fairly new 2 x 12" design.  A search here should turn up several threads discussing this sub and it just so happens that there is a powered pair for sale in the Marketplace right now.  By the way, the asking price for used Meyer 500-HPs seems to be around $2,000 per box.  It is a 10 year old design, but is still a current product for Meyer.  I have no idea what the new price would be for it.

Iím not sure Iíd go the Meyer HP500 route just based on that one time use. I was getting lots of low end from the hanging line array too so Iím not sure how much bass was filling the room from just those subs. When I would walk past them though I definitely knew they were working. I didnít ask what the line array boxes were but I was able to get a good look at the subs while waiting on the band to show up. They definitely surprised me for output versus size, especially since Iíve learned they were double 12ís.

Since I ground stack my rig I would either need something tall enough to stack my U15Bís on or have a pole mount cup. Iím sure thatís not a big deal these days as it seems everything has a pole mount to it. The next thing would be how easy they are to move around. Iím not concerned with the weight so long as Iím not having to pick it up to move it, so either 4 casters or tilt and push! I donít have a budget yet since again I went into this looking to just add 2 more wís so Iíll need to see what I like and then put a budget together based on that.

Iíve also looked up those yorkville es21ís on their site, thanks for the link. Those are a little smaller than my current subs but about 50lbs heavier, so thatís something to think about as well.

So who on here is semi local to Atlanta and what do you have that I could come out and listen to? Obviously I need to run up to Danley, but what else are the locals using? Feel free to do the private message thing if youíre not wanting to advertise to everybody. Also is there anyone local that could help with measurements for my current subs so I can at least compare specs? Thanks everyone for all this great advice and suggestions.
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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2019, 12:57:07 am »

So you have one active and one passive TH118, and installed a Speakon jumper in the powered cabinet to power the passive cabinet? I think the power module puts out 4000w at 2 ohms, which would be 2000w/speaker if using the 4 ohm drivers.

The plate amp has a parallel speakon out. Made it easy.



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Re: JBL 2242ís and equivalent
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2019, 08:03:03 pm »

If you liked the size and output of the Meyer 500-HP, then you may want to take a look at the JTR Captivator 212 Pro which is a fairly new 2 x 12" design.  A search here should turn up several threads discussing this sub and it just so happens that there is a powered pair for sale in the Marketplace right now. 

So Iíve found a pair of QSC kw181ís that friend has, and Friday I just picked up a gig and Iíll have a pair of something supplementing my rig, Iíll find out when I pick them up what they are. So far all I know is single 18ís.

Does anybody near Atlanta have anything from JTR that I could come listen to? Iíll even help on a show for free just to have a listen to some boxes! I just donít know many people in this huge city that does audio on my scale!
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