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David Allred

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Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« on: March 22, 2019, 09:15:54 am »

Are the IP65 rated ADJ & Chauvet fixtures suited for this?  My primary concern is they will be exposed to direct (and reflected metal roof) Alabama sun.  Will that cook the electronics or de-rate the LED life?  Even on white versions? 
Are there any good "White Papers" on the subject?  Couldn't find any discussions here or on the general web (hard to search when the best key words aren't known).
At this point I don't know if they want dusk to dawn, or just up to 6 hrs per night.  Beam angle and lumens/lux requirements are down the road.

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David
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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2019, 10:40:45 am »

Are the IP65 rated ADJ & Chauvet fixtures suited for this?  My primary concern is they will be exposed to direct (and reflected metal roof) Alabama sun.  Will that cook the electronics or de-rate the LED life?  Even on white versions? 
Are there any good "White Papers" on the subject?  Couldn't find any discussions here or on the general web (hard to search when the best key words aren't known).
At this point I don't know if they want dusk to dawn, or just up to 6 hrs per night.  Beam angle and lumens/lux requirements are down the road.

Thanks,
David

I've had excellent experience with Elation's outdoor fixtures. https://www.elationlighting.com/exterior-outdoor
Also some great fixture recommendations on specific projects from Jason at JR Lighting Design.
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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2019, 12:47:59 pm »

If this is for permanent install, you'l probably want commercial lighting. The IP rating only speaks to dust and water ingress protection, not to 24/7 durability.

Plenty of manufacturers make outdoor cove and wash lighting designed for this purpose. I would be hesitant to use entertainment lighting for permanent install.

Are the IP65 rated ADJ & Chauvet fixtures suited for this?  My primary concern is they will be exposed to direct (and reflected metal roof) Alabama sun.  Will that cook the electronics or de-rate the LED life?  Even on white versions? 
Are there any good "White Papers" on the subject?  Couldn't find any discussions here or on the general web (hard to search when the best key words aren't known).
At this point I don't know if they want dusk to dawn, or just up to 6 hrs per night.  Beam angle and lumens/lux requirements are down the road.

Thanks,
David
« Last Edit: March 23, 2019, 12:42:39 pm by Tim Hite »
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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2019, 12:51:24 pm »

If this is for permanent install, you'l probably want commercial lighting. The IP rating only speaks to list and water ingress protection, not to 24/7 durability.

Plenty of manufacturers make outdoor cove and wash lighting designed for this purpose. I would be hesitant to use entertainment lighting for permanent install.

Yes.  This is for permanent install.
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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2019, 12:53:42 pm »

Chauvet has an architectural line specifically for these applications:  http://www.iluminarc.com/
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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2019, 10:37:33 pm »

The arcitectural expectation is that all the lights will work flawlessly without maintenance for 20+ years in the weather.

Zero hope for entertainment fixtures IMO.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2019, 11:21:38 pm »

The arcitectural expectation is that all the lights will work flawlessly without maintenance for 20+ years in the weather.

Zero hope for entertainment fixtures IMO.

Are you referring to the Iluminarcs?
Care to share brands or sources?
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2019, 10:30:42 pm »

Not a comment on anyones architectural product at all.

Just a comment that the entertainment space wants products optimised for the entertainment world.

A company/designer can certainly design fixtures optimised for entertainment, or optimised for architectural, but probably not design something that is ideal for both.

So there will be two product lines addressing very different markets.
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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2019, 03:26:39 pm »

Are you referring to the Iluminarcs?
Care to share brands or sources?

Look at SGM.  That’s going to be more expensive but are fantastic exterior fixtures. 

Disney has lots of D60 exterior fixtures from ETC

Color kinetics is on top of the Empire State Building.


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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2019, 11:07:43 pm »

Look at SGM.  That’s going to be more expensive but are fantastic exterior fixtures. 

Disney has lots of D60 exterior fixtures from ETC

Color kinetics is on top of the Empire State Building.


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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2019, 01:27:47 am »

Hi David, I was going to chime in with Color Kinetics as well.  They’re one of the usual suspects to consider when needing high performance architectural lighting.  I can also add that several theme parks have had good results with the Chauvet COLORrado IP range as well as the Elation SixPar Series.  While maybe not considered to be top of the line fixtures, they’re “good enough” to warrant installation by the hundreds in outdoor environments.  Hope this helps!   
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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2019, 10:28:28 am »

Chauvet has an architectural line specifically for these applications:  http://www.iluminarc.com/

Dave,
I replied to your PM a couple of weeks back.  Did you see it?
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Re: Commercial exterior RGB LED structure lighting
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2019, 04:13:59 pm »

Dave,
I replied to your PM a couple of weeks back.  Did you see it?
Just PMed you.
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