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Author Topic: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?  (Read 8106 times)

Rob Spence

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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2019, 07:23:33 pm »

I think that the market could use a better digital equivalent to the 1202 and 1402. Like a QU12 and QU14 version of the QU16 - something with a digital snake, processing, etc, but in a smaller form factor.

Maybe iPad based mixers have taken this market and I'm the odd man out for liking physical knobs...

Hey, I still have a 1202 and a 1402. I even have a pair of those old Shure half rack mixers with the knobs and meters. I use em to drive the press box or feed to video. The meter letís me know itís working.



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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2019, 07:29:55 pm »

The great thing about digital these days is you can now easily share consoles between acts and not be limited to 8 channels for the openers on a 48 channel desk.

Nonetheless, most tours require the opener have their own console.
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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2019, 09:15:20 pm »

Maybe iPad based mixers have taken this market and I'm the odd man out for liking physical knobs...

I think lots of us like knobs, it's just hard to justify the cost to the people cutting the cheques.

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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2019, 09:21:47 pm »

I think that the market could use a better digital equivalent to the 1202 and 1402. Like a QU12 and QU14 version of the QU16 - something with a digital snake, processing, etc, but in a smaller form factor.

The QSC Touchmix-8 seems to fill this niche, although it doesn't have a digital snake accessory. 
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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2019, 01:45:35 pm »

I like the QSC Touch Mix feature set, but they are really slow to work on because they only have one control wheel. The touchscreen isn't very responsive.

Certainly the tablet controlled shoebox mixers (MR, XR, Ui) fit the bill. but they're tough to drop with an inexperienced client.

The QSC Touchmix-8 seems to fill this niche, although it doesn't have a digital snake accessory.
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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2019, 11:33:47 pm »

Man, how did we go from talking about $1/4 million dollar consoles to $1,000 consoles?   :o
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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2019, 11:55:36 am »

Man, how did we go from talking about $1/4 million dollar consoles to $1,000 consoles?   :o

When the topic swerved to ROI. 
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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2019, 08:49:42 pm »

Okay, this is strictly a curiosity question.  i'm not in the market for either of these personally and i don't need a quote.  Just wondering what ballpark these desks are in pricewise.

Assume similar channel count/configuration [ish...  i know "it depends"...] 

Estimates plus or minus 10k US is fine.  i just have no idea, and this is something not easily googled.

thanks in advance

lets assume AROUND 100 inputs

MSRP Pricing:

SD7 Surface/Engine: $180,075.00
DiGiCo SD-Rack: $8,250.00
DiGiCo SD-Rack: $8,250.00
= $196,575

SD5 Surface/Engine: $105,724.00
DiGiCo SD-Rack: $8,250.00
DiGiCo SD-Rack: $8,250.00
= $122,224

Avid S6L-32D w/192 Engine and Stage Rack: $104,780.00
Stage 64: $17,695.00
= $122,475

Avid S6L-24C w/112 Engine and Stage Rack: $50,470
Stage 64: $17,695.00
= $68,165

and the Yamaha prices aren't public so I can't post those, but the same ish setup will run over $210k MSRP

Again all of these numbers are the publicly posted MSRP... Obviously street price varies, but is always quite a bit less than MSRP.
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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2019, 01:40:50 pm »

lets assume AROUND 100 inputs

MSRP Pricing:

SD7 Surface/Engine: $180,075.00
DiGiCo SD-Rack: $8,250.00
DiGiCo SD-Rack: $8,250.00
= $196,575

SD5 Surface/Engine: $105,724.00
DiGiCo SD-Rack: $8,250.00
DiGiCo SD-Rack: $8,250.00
= $122,224

Avid S6L-32D w/192 Engine and Stage Rack: $104,780.00
Stage 64: $17,695.00
= $122,475

Avid S6L-24C w/112 Engine and Stage Rack: $50,470
Stage 64: $17,695.00
= $68,165

and the Yamaha prices aren't public so I can't post those, but the same ish setup will run over $210k MSRP

Again all of these numbers are the publicly posted MSRP... Obviously street price varies, but is always quite a bit less than MSRP.

The best desk is the cheapest!  I do also like the pm10, are they really that expensive?  I was led to believe they were about £150,000, I would expect that might also be negotiable, though I donít have any firm knowledge of that.
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Re: S6L vs. PM10 vs. SD7 [or whatever digicos comp is] cost?
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2019, 04:07:28 pm »

Yamaha RIVAGE PM10 128x32 System retails for $164,999 USD


The best desk is the cheapest!  I do also like the pm10, are they really that expensive?  I was led to believe they were about £150,000, I would expect that might also be negotiable, though I donít have any firm knowledge of that.
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