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Benjamin Krumholz

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Maryland Electricians Act
« on: February 20, 2019, 02:09:49 pm »

Some New Laws that are being proposed in Maryland..

Maryland Electricians Act. https://avixa.azureedge.net/portal/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2019-md-house-bill-792.pdf

Electricians - Low-Voltage Electricians, Continuing Education, and Penalties.
https://avixa.azureedge.net/portal/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2019-md-house-bill-905.pdf

Interested to hear some thoughts from the crowd.. Basically it sounds like I have to be or hire a Master Electrician or Electrician Journeyman if i want to do ANYTHING that involves A/V Systems, high or low voltage, temporary or installed..

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Re: Maryland Electricians Act
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2019, 02:53:00 pm »

Some New Laws that are being proposed in Maryland..

Maryland Electricians Act. https://avixa.azureedge.net/portal/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2019-md-house-bill-792.pdf

Electricians - Low-Voltage Electricians, Continuing Education, and Penalties.
https://avixa.azureedge.net/portal/docs/default-source/default-document-library/2019-md-house-bill-905.pdf

Interested to hear some thoughts from the crowd.. Basically it sounds like I have to be or hire a Master Electrician or Electrician Journeyman if i want to do ANYTHING that involves A/V Systems, high or low voltage, temporary or installed..

Having read only your description (because trying to interpret legalese takes to long), it sounds like typical special-interest legislation or cronyism with a splash of nanny-state. I'm not sure what the existing laws were though. I bet they were already headed that way.
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Re: Maryland Electricians Act
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2019, 04:01:35 pm »


Interested to hear some thoughts from the crowd.. Basically it sounds like I have to be or hire a Master Electrician or Electrician Journeyman if i want to do ANYTHING that involves A/V Systems, high or low voltage, temporary or installed..

From one of the links you provided:

(2) "Provide electrical services" includes installing, repairing, or altering any electrical wiring, fixture, appliance,
apparatus, raceway, or conduit that:
(i) generates, transmits, transforms, or uses electrical energy in any form for light, heat, power, or communication; and
(ii) is located within a plant, substation, or elsewhere.


Seems to me like they are trying to regulate installations, not temp setups. There is a lot of shady installs out there, I think they are trying to clean that up.
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Re: Maryland Electricians Act
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2019, 05:26:19 pm »

In California they already have a C-7 low-voltage contractor license requirement for this sort of thing. It's to ensure that consumers are protected from shoddy and dangerous workmanship, and the license also gives the contractors recourse against shady clients.
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Re: Maryland Electricians Act
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2019, 06:03:33 pm »

(2) "Provide electrical services" includes installing, repairing, or altering any electrical wiring, fixture, appliance,
apparatus, raceway, or conduit that:
(i) generates, transmits, transforms, or uses electrical energy in any form for light, heat, power, or communication; and
(ii) is located within a plant, substation, or elsewhere.

Seems to me like they are trying to regulate installations, not temp setups. There is a lot of shady installs out there, I think they are trying to clean that up.


These are more the words i am concerned about and this is new text to the act.. Do you do any of these things?! Well you better be a Master electrician or a Journeyman Electrician


(K) "PROVIDING LIMITED ENERGY SERVICES" MEANS TO DESIGN, INSTALL, ERECT, REPAIR, MAINTAIN, OR
ALTER ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:
(1) CABLING AND EQUIPMENT FOR VOICE, AUDIO, AND DATA SIGNALS;
(2) CLASS TWO OR CLASS THREE CIRCUITS, AS DEFINED BY THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE, THAT ARE
REMOTE CONTROL, SIGNALING, OR POWER-LIMITED;
(3) FIRE ALARM SYSTEMS;
(4) OPTICAL FIBER CABLES;
(5) COMMUNICATION CIRCUITS;
(6) RACEWAYS;
(7) COMMUNITY ANTENNA TELEVISION OR RADIO DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS;
(8) NETWORK-POWERED BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS;
(9) PREMISES-POWERED BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS;
(10) ALARM SYSTEMS;
(11) ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEMS;
(12) VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS;
(13) HOME AUTOMATION AND CONTROL SYSTEMS;
(14) AUDIO VISUAL SYSTEMS;
(15) COMPUTER AND COMMUNICATIONS NETWORKS;
(16) HEATING FURNACES AND ELECTRICALLY OPERATED AIR-CONDITIONING AND REFRIGERATION
EQUIPMENT THAT REQUIRES NOT MORE THAN 225 VOLTS OR 25 AMPERES OF ELECTRICAL CURRENT;
(17) DIGITAL OR ELECTRICAL SIGNAGE;
(18) RADIOS;
(19) TELEVISIONS;
(20) TELEVISION AND RADIO DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS; AND
(21) MOTORS.
(j) (L) "State Board" means the State Board of Master Electricians.
(k) (M) "State license" means a license that is issued by the State Board to a master AN electrician.
6-102.
The policy of the State PURPOSE OF THIS TITLE is to regulate, throughout the State, those persons who provide
electrical services or engage in the business of providing ESTABLISH A LICENSING PROGRAM FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO
PROVIDE OR ASSIST IN PROVIDING electrical services, IN ORDER to safeguard the life, health, property, and public welfare of
the citizens of the State.
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Re: Maryland Electricians Act
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2019, 09:56:22 pm »

Seems to me like they are trying to regulate installations, not temp setups. There is a lot of shady installs out there, I think they are trying to clean that up.

My guess is this is in reaction to all the electrical issues over the last year or so at the MGM Casino near Nation Harbor.
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Re: Maryland Electricians Act
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2019, 10:55:50 pm »


These are more the words i am concerned about and this is new text to the act.. Do you do any of these things?! Well you better be a Master electrician or a Journeyman Electrician


(K) "PROVIDING LIMITED ENERGY SERVICES" MEANS TO DESIGN, INSTALL, ERECT, REPAIR, MAINTAIN, OR
ALTER ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

<snip>

 IN ORDER to safeguard the life, health, property, and public welfare of
the citizens of the State.

One positive if this act is passed it's going to be a good time to get your journeyman's ticket...The gov't will find out quickly how few licensed electricians there are in your state to complete the many tasks they have just reallocated.
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Re: Maryland Electricians Act
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2019, 12:59:55 pm »

One positive if this act is passed it's going to be a good time to get your journeyman's ticket...

I'm 48, is that even possible at my age?
Just tossing-out my 32 years experience of successful happy-client audio knowledge and spending years doing something entirely different just to be able to then go back and do what I've always done?
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Re: Maryland Electricians Act
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2019, 03:32:32 pm »

My guess is this is in reaction to all the electrical issues over the last year or so at the MGM Casino near Nation Harbor.

This may be true, but -politics aside- if that is the case it is the wrong solution.  There were several code violations and inspection lapses cited as causes.  Adding more licensing and permitting requirements doesn't fix that.  Current code and proper inspections should have prevented the problem.

Licensing/permitting doesn't guarantee quality work-it does provide a paper trail for accountability. IF the paper trail is utilized.
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Re: Maryland Electricians Act
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2019, 04:47:11 pm »

Note: I'm not making this up - saw hundreds come through the mail sorting facility back then


Maryland, back in late 70s and early 80s, had a slogan they were pushing - like  "Virginia is for Lovers."
So someone quite cleverly created:


Maryland. Oh! What a state I'm in!


'nuff said.


BTW, will I still be allowed to run my own mic cables? Power cords?


As a Maryland resident,
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