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Bob Charest

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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2019, 01:29:11 PM »

Ahh, Andy Peters! :-) PSW then was very educational...

Still is, of course!


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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2019, 01:30:14 PM »

Sigh.

The sound of history, repeating.  A Grace Jones moment, perhaps?
Well, I'm curious as to my questions with the blessing of hind sight. See what could have been, in other words.

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Tim McCulloch

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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2019, 01:48:39 PM »

Well, I'm curious as to my questions with the blessing of hind sight. See what could have been, in other words.

-Ray

Your post saved me a bunch of typing.  Thanks, Ray!

That he's not made a move yet indicates to me that he's not "needed" to actually make the purchase.

Most small system owners seem to think the magic is in the box.  It's not.  The magic is getting the speaker system up in the air... something that's been clearly demonstrated since Don & Carolyn Davis authored the first edition of Sound System Engineering.

For those who don't know Don, he was with Altec-Lansing and developed the graphic EQ and RTA after tuning systems with custom-wound filters and an o'scope displaying Lissajous patterns.  He and Carolyn went on to found Synergistic Audio Concepts, now run by Pat Brown and his wife.

At any rate, almost any pro-sumer loudspeaker will benefit from elevation and appropriate aiming.

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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2019, 08:53:42 PM »

"I have no steering wheel on my car, how many horsepower do I need to drive to the bakery?"

One horse power.
But then you have to account for the bridle and hook-up to the car; feed for the horse; stables for the horse; shoeing and grooming for the horse; permits to keep and use the horse in certain areas. 
There are a lot of hidden horse costs. 

It's better to just purchase the steering wheel. 
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Steve M Smith

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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2019, 03:06:32 AM »

Pedantry:

"Per say" is not a valid expression.  It's "per se" in Latin, meaning "by itself".

To quote British comedian, writer and TV presenter, Stephen Fry...

"Latin is not used in England per se".


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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2019, 08:08:48 AM »

Pedantry:

"Per say" is not a valid expression.  It's "per se" in Latin, meaning "by itself".

As a Latin phrase it should be in Italics, too.

/pedantry, with a tip of the hat to Andy Peters

Nothing wrong with some English linguistic pedantry. However I'm curious as to which stylebook, academic guidance or other writing guide currently specifies putting generic Latin (ie used in common parlance) in italics?

In drafting legal documents, the standard depends on whether you are actually using a close literal translation of a Latin word in meaning - eg "infra" or "supra" - or an appropriated word which is now effectively part of our lexicon, for example terms of art such as "pro se" and "certiorari".



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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019, 11:36:40 AM »

However I'm curious as to which stylebook, academic guidance or other writing guide currently specifies putting generic Latin (ie used in common parlance) in italics?

Me, too. And would this mean that, as a somewhat recalcitrant ASCIIite, I should put my little Latin bits (which I try to avoid for the most part) in ALL CAPS?

Seriously though, Tim and Guy, I'm all for clear communication, as well as a little fun with language, so thanks for helping to keep us on the ball.

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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2019, 02:01:59 PM »

This goes back to highschool, so lots of things have changed since then.  Wish I could remember the style book or whatever reference the teacher was using.
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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2019, 02:11:56 PM »

I've called the topic tow truck to pull everybody back onto the road of the op👍
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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2019, 02:54:27 PM »

I've called the topic tow truck to pull everybody back onto the road of the op👍
Heh. Yeah. Well, we are sorta waiting for the OP to swing back around on this as well. We've posed some questions that it'd be interesting to hear the answers to.

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Re: Line Array Intelligibility Distance
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