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Steve M Smith

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Re: Best Kick Drum Mic?
« Reply #170 on: June 04, 2015, 07:19:05 AM »

My father was a drummer in his younger days.  He was always telling me about the importance of tuning drums.

Sadly, I never got to hear him play.

I do know one drummer who puts the mic on the beater side of the kick.  He brings his own mics and sets them up himself.

One advantage of that is that he can see where it is.  If it moves and it's on the other side, he won't notice.


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Re: Best Kick Drum Mic?
« Reply #171 on: June 04, 2015, 08:27:30 AM »

The only success I've ever had putting a mic on the batter side of a kick was with a very talented swing player on a ting ting ta ting gig.  His concept of playing with balance was superb and made my job a luxury. 

Jeff Bankston - Amen, Brother!  Every drum has its own voice and tuning range which can all change with head selection.  It's always easy to tell who's taken the time to learn the tuning tendencies of their kit and who hasn't.
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Re: Best Kick Drum Mic?
« Reply #172 on: June 04, 2015, 08:53:04 AM »

I just started using an RE320 on kick. We haven't had time to do a sound check with it. Just place and did a few shows. Seems to need more eq than a D6 or d112 but I like it so far.  Hope to get a sound check in next week so that I can hear it, and the other mics, solo.
One of the best drum sounds I've ever heard was a night I worked with a sound guy who was also a drummer. Young kid on drums with a nice kit. Started sound check and they sounded horrible. Guy asked me for a roll of gaff, spent 20 minutes with the drummer and got a great sound when he was done. I was very impressed.
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Re: Best Kick Drum Mic?
« Reply #173 on: June 04, 2015, 02:22:02 PM »

One of the funniest things I remember from my days working at a blues club.

Old-timer walks in with his drum "kit". Which consists of a very mismatched set of drums covered in tape and all kinds of broken or missing hardware and begins to set up. This kit looked like it should be on the mad max films, but when he starts playing it is the absolute best drum tones I have ever heard!

Just put mics on it and push up the faders!
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« Reply #174 on: July 12, 2015, 01:13:17 AM »

I just started using an RE320 on kick. We haven't had time to do a sound check with it. Just place and did a few shows.

I've got two.  They're not for sale, but I'll loan one (if not in use, of course) to any LAB-sters in the Pittsburgh-Youngstown area if they want to "try-before-they-buy".  Hit me with a PM.
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Re: RE-320 Audition (Re: Best Kick Drum Mic?)
« Reply #175 on: July 12, 2015, 10:13:14 AM »

I've got two.  They're not for sale, but I'll loan one (if not in use, of course) to any LAB-sters in the Pittsburgh-Youngstown area if they want to "try-before-they-buy".  Hit me with a PM.

I'm not that happy with the kick sound but I'm pretty sure it's the drum. Smallest kick I've ever miced. We're getting a new drummer next month so I'll start over.
Shame cause he's a great drummer and a really nice guy. How often do you hear those things in the same sentence as "drummer"?
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Re: Best Kick Drum Mic?
« Reply #176 on: September 09, 2015, 12:32:12 AM »

In efforts to gain some insight on why some people are attracted to certain mic's, I'll pose this question regarding kick drum microphones (I suppose mic's in general): when considering a mic, is it best to buy a mic that has a frequency response that is in the ballpark of what your taste is?  Is it easier if the mic is flat to begin with?  Is it easier to add what you want to a particular mic with processing rather than taking out certain frequencies?  Aside from EQ bands, do some mic's "color" those frequencies in a way that you can't mix that color out?  Or is every mic able to be tailored?

In the ridiculously short amount of time I've been working with sound, I chose to start with the Beta 52A.  Out of the few I got to play with before I made my first kick mic purchase (and I wish there was a way I could test more mic's at a store), it sounded the roundest and most natural to me.  I'm a drummer that is very much into the acoustic sound of the drum, so I guess you can say I come from that place of wanting to capture a more acoustically-accurate mix.  As a rock/pop drummer that dabbles in brass funk, 70's cover music, and a healthy share of swing, I like the sound I get from the my drums.  They sound the way I want them to, so I want to capture that.
Having said all that, is it easier to achieve that result with a mic that is flat or EQ'ed with a frequency response that's in the ballpark?  And I realize that there is more to mixing that EQ.
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Re: Best Kick Drum Mic?
« Reply #177 on: September 09, 2015, 09:05:17 AM »

I've totally convinced now that the kick itself is far more important than the mic being used.
Bought an RE320 this year and was thinking of sending it back. Tried a D112 and a D6 and didn't like the sound either. I settled on the D6 cause it was the easiest to setup.
Got a new drummer a few weeks ago. Used the RE320 and I was happy from the first beat. This guys kick sounds like a cannon going off.  I can hear bottom end from it with the PA off.
I may try the D6 later but I think that any decent mic will sound good with that kick.
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Re: Best Kick Drum Mic?
« Reply #178 on: September 09, 2015, 10:01:51 AM »

I've totally convinced now that the kick itself is far more important than the mic being used.
Bought an RE320 this year and was thinking of sending it back. Tried a D112 and a D6 and didn't like the sound either. I settled on the D6 cause it was the easiest to setup.
Got a new drummer a few weeks ago. Used the RE320 and I was happy from the first beat. This guys kick sounds like a cannon going off.  I can hear bottom end from it with the PA off.
I may try the D6 later but I think that any decent mic will sound good with that kick.

I agree. I work regularly with a seasoned drummer who has one of the best tuned drum kits I have heard. The kick is especially good. He uses no dampening whatsoever which is surprising - yet  I always get great results.  I can use any kick mic on his kick and it sounds excellent.
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Re: Best Kick Drum Mic?
« Reply #179 on: September 09, 2015, 10:25:16 AM »

I've totally convinced now that the kick itself is far more important than the mic being used.
Bought an RE320 this year and was thinking of sending it back. Tried a D112 and a D6 and didn't like the sound either. I settled on the D6 cause it was the easiest to setup.
Got a new drummer a few weeks ago. Used the RE320 and I was happy from the first beat. This guys kick sounds like a cannon going off.  I can hear bottom end from it with the PA off.
I may try the D6 later but I think that any decent mic will sound good with that kick.

I sometimes put plexiglas in front of the 'cannon' kicks. In a small venue there is sometimes too much slap and punch off stage to balance with other instruments.
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