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[Tim McCulloch]

I think it's a common trait in the industry, people love to do down the best seller / most popular choice. It the same with the Beta 58!

The Beta 58 sounds terrible.  In fact, I don't care much for most of the Beta vocal mics, they have this "ice pick in the forehead" tonality that can't be EQed out.

Funny thing, too, is that we get riders that spec the Beta 58, and in our advances we mention that we don't have 9 of them (or whatever).  The typical reply is "that's okay, the Betas were put in by the old sound guy; regular 58's will be fine."

YMMV and all that...

Have fun, good luck.

Tim Mc

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Funny thing, too, is that we get riders that spec the Beta 58, and in our advances we mention that we don't have 9 of them (or whatever).  The typical reply is "that's okay, the Betas were put in by the old sound guy; regular 58's will be fine."

That's one of the things that I've became an ass on... If the BE don't bother to update their rider according to what they really want, I just give them what I want, and happen to have with me...

The band that I'm touring myself is on a break at the moment, but when we were touring I kept our rider up to date all the time, with information on review date and revision, and also kept it well known where it can be found... ...also the agency that sold the gigs got the newest one all the time and I never had any issues...

And typically if you have generally accepted mics (drums: B52, SM57, e904, some small condenser (oktava, Sennheiser...)... gtr: SM57, e906... vocs: SM58, e935...) they'll do just fine. And if they are not good enough I tend to end up saying "You use what's given, or you bring your own".

fwiw,
-Minka-

[Jeff Bankston]

the AKG D12E (not the D112) is the bestess bass drum mike ever ! they aint ben made since about 1990 but you can find them used. i got 3. i am a drummer. and i use both heads ! on the drum that is !

[Doug Fowler]

the AKG D12E (not the D112) is the bestess bass drum mike ever ! they aint ben made since about 1990 but you can find them used. i got 3. i am a drummer. and i use both heads ! on the drum that is !

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[Nick Jones]

As with any mic, it's application specific.  However, if I had to pick only one it would be the Audix D6.  In my experience, a well tuned kick and a well placed D6 need much less EQ than any other mic I've used.  For Jazz an RE20 or PZM on the floor is good.

That said, a well tuned system, mic placement, a good ear and knowing how to EQ are more important than mic choice.  The mics are tools, they are only as powerful as the user behind them.

[Mac Kerr]

As with any mic,

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[Franz Francis]

My take on a killer kick drum sound is to always carry more than enough rig for the gig and properly phase aligned the subs with the mid hi tops to the area of coverage. The Drum tuning, mic type or types and placement come after.

Franz

[Jeff Bankston]

The Drum tuning, mic type or types and placement come after.

Franz

having played drums for over 40 years tuning the drum is the first step. its easy to mic a tuned drum. its the drummers responsibility to see that his drums are tuned just as a guitar player sees to it his geetar is tuned. out of tune instruments are worse then a vocalist who cant sing ! i am jeff the shrubber i mean the drummer !!!

[Ned Ward]

I use a 57 on the beater side, then a beta 91, e901, and sm 91 in a l,c,r combo in the dead center on a pillow, then i have a re27, b52 and a d6 pinned at the hole at a narrow angle so it spreads the air movement over all 3 mics equally. Oh i also have an ae2500de on the inside of the beater head. Then i must have delay and phase on every channel so then it becomes making sure i have the proper console.... just saying.

given the nature of this thread and not knowing Scott,  not sure whether to laugh or not...

[Jeff Bankston]

I use a 57 on the beater side, then a beta 91, e901, and sm 91 in a l,c,r combo in the dead center on a pillow, then i have a re27, b52 and a d6 pinned at the hole at a narrow angle so it spreads the air movement over all 3 mics equally. Oh i also have an ae2500de on the inside of the beater head. Then i must have delay and phase on every channel so then it becomes making sure i have the proper console.... just saying.

given the nature of this thread and not knowing Scott,  not sure whether to laugh or not...

if a single shure Unidyne was good enough for Bonzo...

yeah too many mikes on the bass drum fur shure !!!

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