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Nathan Morefield

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Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« on: January 28, 2019, 01:12:45 pm »

I think I may have this worked out in my head but would love a sanity check and/or other ideas. 

My band is playing a St. Patrick's Day event where we'll be on a patio playing for about 150 people.  The pub also wants to have our music coming over their PA system inside.  When I say PA system, I mean a bunch of small crappy speakers in the ceiling that usually has background music or "Smith, party of 6, your table is ready" type announcements. 

I'll need to run a XLR into their system of the whole band, but we usually don't put drums or bass through our PA for gigs. 

So I'm figuring I mic up the drums, take a DI on the bass, and set up an AUX mix of the whole band to send into their system and then we just mix ourselves through our boxes the way we usually would?

Am I thinking about that correctly?

On the drums, would a snare, kick and OH be sufficient?

Thanks. 
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Steve Ferreira

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Re: Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2019, 01:16:05 pm »

What mixer are you using? If you have Matrix outs i would go that route before sending each individual channel to an aux.
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Nathan Morefield

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Re: Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2019, 01:18:28 pm »

What mixer are you using? If you have Matrix outs i would go that route before sending each individual channel to an aux.

It's a Soundcraft Signature 16 so no matrix outs. 
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Re: Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2019, 01:44:09 pm »

If they're set on  sending
 A mix to their system  I'd put a pretty aggressive high pass filter & limiting on that send
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Re: Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2019, 01:51:38 pm »

If they're set on  sending
 A mix to their system  I'd put a pretty aggressive high pass filter & limiting on that send

That makes sense, Thanks.  I could make that happen in my studio but don't have that gear for the field.  Crap, this may suck a little worse than I thought it might.
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Re: Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2019, 02:03:16 pm »

One other thing if the rest of the restaurant is within earshot IE the same room/ area you have to apply a delay or you would have quite a noticeable weird slap Echo effect as well.
 Good times😳
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Re: Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2019, 02:15:04 pm »

You will also want an isolating transformer between your rig and theirs.
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Re: Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2019, 02:18:55 pm »

You will also want an isolating transformer between your rig and theirs.

OMG, I may just cancel this gig.... :-\

Seriously, the  manager their says bands "do it all the time" and I'm quite certain none of them have any more advanced gear or knowledge than we do.  We may just plug in and hope for the best...
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Re: Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2019, 02:19:30 pm »

Alternative choice: use a single "room mic" and send only that to the inside. Should work just as well as a live recording on a phone. Place it where it will pickup the PA as well as the over-all stage sound.
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Re: Small Band Setup - Sending full mix to restaurant speakers?
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2019, 02:24:49 pm »

If managers okay with it,use the blow and go method.
 just have him send a waiver for you to sign that says you're not responsible for smoking the ceiling speakers or the overall fidelity.
Good to go👍
 


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