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Art Welter

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Behringer C200
« on: January 17, 2019, 12:08:40 pm »

The new product intro says:
"200 Watt Powered Column Loudspeaker with an 8" Subwoofer, 4 High Frequency Drivers"

The picture looks like two high frequency sections stacked, each presumably holding 4 drivers.

The website product link seems "stuck" as of noon 1/17/19, anyone downloaded a spec sheet they could share yet?
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Guy Graham

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Re: Behringer C200
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2019, 05:53:33 pm »

There's a lot more general information about the product on their website, though probably not what you're looking for:

http://m.musictribe.com/Categories/Behringer/Loudspeaker-Systems/Portable/C200/p/P0E0S

I'm not sure they normally do regular, conventional spec sheets. I noticed when the Turbo site all changed to Behringer / Music Group format - even the older product pages (for example the last couple of Aspect boxes they continued for a while) that previously had useful user materials available on the old Turbosound site, were now simplified, without any downloads for specs, GLL files etc.

I think the product pictured is just one sub and one top, with 4 drivers in the latter. There's nothing about being able to take it apart and put the tops in stereo, so I suspect the part that looks like another top (underneath what I assume is the top speaker cabinet) is merely for light show, aesthetic and cable management purposes.

Most of the additional information is about the mixer section, remote control capabilities (including an actual remote control), the ability to use Bluetooth and SD/MMC cards, MP3, plus the tacky light show on board.

Apart from basic details about power and the driver compliment, the only dispersion info is "extremely wide" and "consistent". No SPL or other numbers, not even references to the frequency extension. "High quality sound" is assured.

The 200 watt power figure is not specified in any way, so presumably that's the total driving the sub and tops. They seem very pleased with offering biamplification, Class D amps and high quality custom drivers!

The mixer section has an XLR output, but doesn't have any indication of it's a stereo link option. No mention of stereo, though there's a reference to FM radio and logo for such on the mixer, so hard to tell whether connecting up 2 units for stereo playback of such is possible.

There does seem to be a lot of features included. I'm guessing the light show - which to be fair looks quite impressive from the pictures - is a hint at the market they are aiming for.

Is this the first new Behringer branded speaker product to actually appear, since they took over Turbosound? Interestingly no mention is made of Turbo drivers, Klark Teknik amps or processing, nor even Midas preamps (there is a mic pre included) which is surprising!

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Re: Behringer C200
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2019, 11:49:24 pm »

There does seem to be a lot of features included. I'm guessing the light show - which to be fair looks quite impressive from the pictures - is a hint at the market they are aiming for.

Is this the first new Behringer branded speaker product to actually appear, since they took over Turbosound? Interestingly no mention is made of Turbo drivers, Klark Teknik amps or processing, nor even Midas preamps (there is a mic pre included) which is surprising!
One stop shopping, mixer, speakers and lights in one column  :) :'(!
 
I had not noticed any other new Behringer branded speaker product until getting a notice for this thing today. Looks like it would be nice for pajama parties...
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Re: Behringer C200
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2019, 01:03:42 am »

One stop shopping, mixer, speakers and lights in one column  :) :'(!
 
I had not noticed any other new Behringer branded speaker product until getting a notice for this thing today. Looks like it would be nice for pajama parties...

I think you guys are on to something.  It's brand re-positioning time. The new target audience of Behringer models has no idea of Midas/K-T/Turbo.  They want something better than Mr. Microphone, but cute.

If the Tribe would finally figure out what they're doing with their pro/touring loudspeaker lines... oh wait, was that earthquakes and lightning?
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Re: Behringer C200
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2019, 11:44:49 am »

The new product intro says:
"200 Watt Powered Column Loudspeaker with an 8" Subwoofer, 4 High Frequency Drivers"

The picture looks like two high frequency sections stacked, each presumably holding 4 drivers.

The website product link seems "stuck" as of noon 1/17/19, anyone downloaded a spec sheet they could share yet?

Like Guy, I'd assume that the lower of the 2 column elements is just a spacer/connector.
One company I freelance for here a lot as an LD Systems rig that works in exactly the same way - handful of 3" "fullrange" drivers in the top column element, with spacers holding it up over the 8" "sub". Comes with marginally more info in the specs too... ;-)
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2019, 12:24:29 pm »

Another potentially telling aspect that didn't occur to me in writing my post above, is that for all the generous inclusion of such broad connectivity functionality here - this new product doesn't also offer Behringer's own Ultranet, despite that common feature having an impressive capability to transport both signal and control via one simple to use proprietary digital protocol.

Not only has Music Group utilised this on a broad range of everything from prosumer products, to more specialised MI designs - they seem to have continued developing useful yet comparatively inexpensive ancillary products based on Ultranet, such as the flexible and cheap personal monitoring range of solutions and interfaces.

The only products within the various Music Group/Tribe brands that don't take advantage of any ability to interact with the Ultranet "ecosystem" seem to be their most upmarket, expensive and professional offerings - such as the latest Lab.gruppen amps.

I'd assume including it on products such as their DSP amps, would be reasonably simple and inexpensive. I may be wrong of course, but it seems like the reason for such an omission could be related to market segmentation and differentiation between brands?

Or more simply, it may be designers don't imagine users at this level would have any use for integrating upmarket DSP amps with lower grade MI kit, especially when they've already included AES3 and Dante plus AVB options on their latest models.

Given how much digital functionality / connectivity has already been included in this new C200 product, which I expect is going to be even cheaper than those rather flimsy and inexpensive Turbo Inspire range of column, powered, all-in-one Bose-type loudspeaker solutions - I assume the lack of Ultranet, like the lack of leveraging marketing from more celebrated names like Midas and Klark Teknik, is related to the anticipated target market for this new distinctly solely Behringer product!

Whilst I'm not really in the latter group, I'd now be rather curious to hear what 200 advertised Watts powering 4 x 2.5" drivers plus the 8" sub actually sounds like, especially how loud it can get gracefully?

Listening with my eyes, I'm guessing this is going to be more along the lines of a fully featured, decent quality, home karaoke type item - rather than the cheapest of the many current popular me-too, Bose-wannabe, all-in-one, musician-orientated, powered column speakers. Yet the rather ambitiously-worded marketing materials seen so far, seem aimed at a notably broader range of potential end users!



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Re: Behringer C200
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2019, 12:46:08 pm »

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I think you're overthinking a bit about where this would fall in the market segment. All the other column setups on the market don't have any kind of digital routing baked in, and I doubt it'd ever be utilized if it were. These type setups are aimed at solo performers/presenters or maybe a duo/trio where any of the benefits of ultranet et al would effectively be moot. Quick setup in a compact footprint is the name of the game. It's got all the same features of other kits on the market, so as long as pricing is where it needs to be, it'll be in all the local dives in no time.

As far as their proliferation of ultranet on the rest of their catalog, you pretty much nailed it with the assertation that operators at different levels both above or below the ultranet umbrella would have no need for it as they either wouldn't have a use case, or they're already using Dante/AES/MADI/etc.

At least it's pretty to look at, I look forward to seeing the lightshow capabilities. /s
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Re: Behringer C200
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2019, 02:04:21 pm »



I think you're overthinking a bit about where this would fall in the market segment. All the other column setups on the market don't have any kind of digital routing baked in, and I doubt it'd ever be utilized if it were. These type setups are aimed at solo performers/presenters or maybe a duo/trio where any of the benefits of ultranet et al would effectively be moot. Quick setup in a compact footprint is the name of the game. It's got all the same features of other kits on the market, so as long as pricing is where it needs to be, it'll be in all the local dives in no time.

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At least it's pretty to look at, I look forward to seeing the lightshow capabilities. /s

I think you are quite right! To be honest I don't normally pay attention to these, as new skinny columns keep popping up absurdly frequently, whilst I rarely if ever have need or opportunity to to use them.

I just became interested when there were no replies to Art's original query, and noticed a few potentially interesting and many potentially curious issues, upon reading the website!

Advertising 200 Watts of power seems modestly out of step with this kind of product. Obviously if that's not an inflated number, it could get pretty loud with suitably sensitive drivers, plus ironically the classic old Turbo boxes were especially impressive in that respect - but they've not leveraged that at all in the marketing.

I've noticed Bluetooth offered on a few different modern powered speakers, but this new Behringer seemed impressive in adding the built in memory card playback function.

FM radio seems a bit out of left field, but I guess it's probably cheap to implement compared with digital radio. I quite like the idea of being able to catch up with BBC Radio 4 (or NPR in the USA) during breaks, load in/out etc. It reminds me of d&b including Pong, when the D12 came out!

At a guess, I think the light show has the potential to be very impressive indeed. The last speaker I saw with such was a regular format powered 12" box from HH Electronic, but the lights were far fewer and looked terrible - probably worse than none at all, with the exception of some kind of emergency requirements in case of fire or similar.

The lights on this look quite substantial, plus I guess the former factor is a far better platform compared with a typical rectangular powered speaker. Whilst simple but effective LED units are pretty cheap, I could see the attractions of the convenience of having it all in one box - assuming the sound is loud enough for DJs and other folks I suspect will end up using it.

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Re: Behringer C200
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2019, 02:16:56 pm »

The biggest problem with systems like this regardless of the brand name is all too often the people using it believe that it will work in every scenario from a solo performer to a 10 piece band in every room from small to huge.

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Re: Behringer C200
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2019, 03:20:20 pm »

It looks like the LEDs are in the center section only.  Tweeters on top.
They super cheaped out as it will only play MP3s.  Even my phone will play WAVs and FLACs.
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