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Author Topic: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?  (Read 1115 times)

Sam Costa

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Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« on: January 04, 2019, 02:41:13 pm »

A Few months ago I purchased some 14/3 SO cable and made my own IEC power cables, then purchased some 22awg signal/audio cable for my audio feed to the active wedges on stage. I velcro'd them together every 4-5'ft but still doesn't look clean enough on stage going to the wedges, at least not for me.

I'm hoping to see if someone has any info if there is a company that manufactures this in bulk with 1 loom? Meaning having the power (whether 14/3 or even 16/3) and the signal/audio (for XLR)  all in one loom so that I can manufacture my won cabling but much cleaner look than what I have now?

Similar to what I have done here, only I would the signal/audio on each loom going to the desired wedge as 1:



Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2019, 02:45:16 pm by Sam Costa »
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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2019, 02:45:24 pm »

Whirlwind:

http://whirlwindusa.com/catalog/bulk-connectors-multipins-adapters/bulk-cable/audio-power-combo-cable



A Few months ago I purchased some 14/3 SO cable and made my own IEC power cables, then purchased some 22awg signal/audio cable for my audio feed to the active wedges on stage. I velcro'd them together every 4-5'ft but still doesn't look clean enough on stage going to the wedges, at least not for me.

I'm hoping to see if someone has any info if there is a company that manufactures this in bulk with 1 loom? Meaning having the power (whether 14/3 or even 16/3) and the signal/audio (for XLR)  all in one loom so that I can manufacture my won cabling but much cleaner look than what I have now?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2019, 05:12:32 pm »

Vandamme Ambicore is what I have used in the past.


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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2019, 08:16:49 pm »

I buy braided sheathing and make my own.  The commercial ones with an extruded jacket are heavier and bulkier.
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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2019, 02:47:15 am »

I don't know that a siamese cable is going to give you a much cleaner look than what you have already.  In fact, it might be worse.  The problem is that unless you make the exact right length of split on the end of the cable, you'll end up with uncontrollable loops that look worse than what your picture currently shows.
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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2019, 11:46:52 am »

I don't know that a siamese cable is going to give you a much cleaner look than what you have already.  In fact, it might be worse.  The problem is that unless you make the exact right length of split on the end of the cable, you'll end up with uncontrollable loops that look worse than what your picture currently shows.

Well, You don't have to have the loop next to the speaker. You could easily hide it off stage.
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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2019, 01:00:05 pm »

I would be more concerned with having IEC plugs onstage at the mercy of the performers who have other things on their minds mid-show than I would with bundling cables but thats just me.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2019, 01:31:19 pm »

Well, You don't have to have the loop next to the speaker. You could easily hide it off stage.

Hi Magnus, thanks for your input. For this particular show (shown above) there were going to be 4 different acts and each one had specific locations for their wedges, hence why I left the coil next to the wedge so that I’m able to place it in different locations for the artist.

If it’s just one band I coil it off stage or right behind the sub.
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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2019, 01:37:04 pm »

I don't know that a siamese cable is going to give you a much cleaner look than what you have already.  In fact, it might be worse.  The problem is that unless you make the exact right length of split on the end of the cable, you'll end up with uncontrollable loops that look worse than what your picture currently shows.

Hi Brian,  if you look closely, the above photo only shows that I’ve got the IEC power connected, there is no signal cable connected yet.

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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2019, 11:52:35 am »

I buy braided sheathing and make my own.

Me, too.  I can make exactly what I want, rather than ordering "off the rack".

I typically shrink tube one end of the braid and leave the other open, to allow for untwisting, if necessary.  Do you?

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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2019, 02:01:30 pm »

Me, too.  I can make exactly what I want, rather than ordering "off the rack".

I typically shrink tube one end of the braid and leave the other open, to allow for untwisting, if necessary.  Do you?

Dave
I would far prefer a 3-4-5 cable (as needed) xlr loom for signal and then powering from a stringer i am likely to have to drop anyways. The power cables can be shortened to about 2 feet for neatness but still allowing for movement

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Re: Power/Audio cable for active wedges w/ XLR and IEC?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2019, 09:06:41 pm »

Even though I have an assortment of lengths of siamese cables, for the front line wedges I've started to use a power stringer and some gender reversers on the front drop snake.  That gives me flexibility in how many inputs there are in front vs. how I configure the sends.  I've started leaving an IEC plugged into each box of the front line power stringer (4 total) and packing it away like that.  Most times that covers it and gives me enough positional flexibility.
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