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Bob Faulkner

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« on: December 31, 2018, 02:12:27 pm »

Anyone using (or have used) the Rock-n-roller Multi-carts?  Looking for something more efficient to move heavy "one offs" of equipment boxes and assorted other boxes.  I use a 2-wheeler for some equipment and have assorted casters that are placed under other boxes.

The 2-wheeler and casters are doing fine, but would like something that can take a lot more gear in one "move".  Came across the Rock-n-roller - looks like it may work, but I'm always suspicious of ads.  Need something somewhat durable.

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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 02:19:52 pm »

Not a big fan personally, but some people I work with love them.
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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 02:36:57 pm »

I bought the R12.  The larger tires make it easier to traverse grass, gravel, etc.  I use it mostly to carry drum gear, but occasionally haul 12" mains and other equipment.  It works well for my needs.  If the distance from vehicle to set-up area isn't far, I find it easier to simply leave the cart at home and make more trips.
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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2018, 06:56:31 pm »

I have one.  Don't use it that much for SR gig but it is handy on playing gigs where you want to pile a bunch of odd shaped stuff on and make one trip of it.  The large pneumatic tires roll decently over lawns and such but you sort of have to lift the caster end a bit over some things.  Kinda bulky, and not super easy to fold up, but it takes a licking and keeps on ticking.  I hauled all the ready-mix and stucco bags into my back yard when I built my project studio using the thing.  Had to repaint it afterwards, but it's still going strong.
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2018, 08:49:42 pm »

What about a Magliner ?

These are very tough and can haul about 1000# when used as a cart.


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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2018, 08:54:47 pm »

RockínRoller cart ?  Hell yeah!
2 k12ís,2k10ís,1x15 bass cab.  Mixer in tool box, cable bag, bass amp, 2 mic stands, pedal board, personal carpet...  1 trip.  Sound gigs ?  Never.  I got people for that ;-)  Band gigs ?  Oh,hell yeah.
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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2018, 11:32:02 pm »

I bought an R12 a few years ago when I was doing a lot of mobile recording in NYC. I found myself fighting it constantly, and wishing I had sprung for a Magliner Gemini Jr (as Ed Hall recommends above), which I had used extensively in the 90s and will probably buy again when the need arises.
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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2019, 12:31:30 am »

This is the cart you want.  We used these at my last job after wearing out a LOT of rock-n-rollers.  I flew with these all over the world and loaded them up with a TON of weight.  They are Awesome!

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/689537-REG/Remin_KMHD500P_Kartmaster_HD_500_w_Polyurethane.html

Oh, one small issue.  They cost 900 bucks...
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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2019, 01:21:07 am »

I used to swear by them.  The big ones with the solid tires but the truth is of you need it you are packing wrong and don't have the right cases/material handling.

It just causes more work,  you have to load and unload at each end of the trip.

Small gigs you strap the mains to the subs,  monitors on their own caster boards.  Mixer lights and stands ride on a road case with cables, mics and such.  Mic stands go in a trade show or hard sided golf club case.

Spent the cart money on a good ramp.

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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2019, 10:31:03 am »

I used one for smaller work.  Then one cold winters night while loading in a small duo at a hipster bar known for its small plates and craft cocktails... the bolts for the front two wheels sheared off!

True story.  It worked fine for what it was.  I kept it in the back of my pickup truck, it was unusually cold last January, around 0-10 degrees, the front wheels hit a small bump in the sidewalk and adios.  They just snapped.  Hah.  Check out some of the industrial options and leave the Rock N Rollers for the drummers.
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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2019, 10:36:36 am »

Thank you all for the responses! 

Well, looks like rock-n-roller may not be the best choice.  Like some of you, I do pack things on top of the subs and other cases (that have casters); works well, but I guess I was looking for something more streamlined for the one-offs.  Hmm... broken bolts - not good.

Thanks for the Magliner and Kartmaster links!  I'm re-evaluating now.
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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2019, 11:19:24 am »

A cheaper alternative to the professional grade:
https://www.samsclub.com/sams/super-brute-900-lb-convertible-dual-purpose-hand-truck-green/184122.ip

I bought this one (but blue) on Craigslist for 40 bucks, just because it was cheap and close to me.
Absolutely love it.  My band mate has a Rock-n-Roller cart, and this is definitely a higher quality build.

Only thing I like about the Rock-n-Roller carts is that some of them have both sides with 2-3 foot high rails, so you can pack high.
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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2019, 12:40:16 pm »

Anyone using (or have used) the Rock-n-roller Multi-carts?  Looking for something more efficient to move heavy "one offs" of equipment boxes and assorted other boxes.  I use a 2-wheeler for some equipment and have assorted casters that are placed under other boxes.

The 2-wheeler and casters are doing fine, but would like something that can take a lot more gear in one "move".  Came across the Rock-n-roller - looks like it may work, but I'm always suspicious of ads.  Need something somewhat durable.

Thanks.

Not all rock n roller carts are equal. Really depends which model you buy. Small wheels will not roll in gravel.  Of course neither will most caster wheels.

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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2019, 04:41:59 pm »

I picked this one up several years ago (a good deal cheaper back then) when I needed something to haul Medium/Large Taiko Drums around for my sonís Taiko group.  Although quite heavy on itís own, itís been solid as a rock. One year, left it outside to the elements all winter long (Northeast).  But with a shot of WD40 (rust removal), some Lithium Grease and air in the tires, it just continues to work.

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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2019, 04:55:20 pm »

I bought the R16 locally for light to medium loads, varying terrain and light transport. Med/light gauge welded frame, plastic wheels on rubber threads.As someone suggested, great for band/bar/dj use. Definitely go with larger caster wheels, and flat free large diameter tires. Pneumatic tires are nice but a hassle to maintain with varying temperatures and unexpected loss of pressure..

For long term solution, I would definitely go with the magliner with flat free wheels. Nice aluminum channel framing, available accessories. For lower cost , their are other brand convertible hand trucks from sams club, Milwaukee, Cosco, etc..
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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2019, 02:06:33 pm »

Anyone using (or have used) the Rock-n-roller Multi-carts?  Looking for something more efficient to move heavy "one offs" of equipment boxes and assorted other boxes.  I use a 2-wheeler for some equipment and have assorted casters that are placed under other boxes.

The 2-wheeler and casters are doing fine, but would like something that can take a lot more gear in one "move".  Came across the Rock-n-roller - looks like it may work, but I'm always suspicious of ads.  Need something somewhat durable.

Thanks.

Going through somewhat of the same situation with regard to equipment moving at load-in load-out.  Setting back up for sound reinforcement, and DJ systems.  My past experience was a very diverse range of settings.  I won't attempt to recommend anything, but share some of what I have encountered in days past.  Doing DJ systems in halls, outdoor gazebos at houses and ranches as well as a myriad of audio jobs from bands in clubs, halls, ballrooms, outdoors at water parks, rodeo's, and of course 4th of July jobs on the infield of a race track.

Varying distances and terrains are what I'm preparing for this time around.  3" swivel casters under racks work great many times - but not at the rodeo.  That can be said for any method.  Whatever you roll with, there's always the job where the stage is 150' from the closest access point you can park the truck and invariably there will be one, two, three steps to ascent somewhere along the trail.  Or a trip into the back of a convention center, a walk through the kitchen that's busy preparing the food for the event, up the freight elevator and to the ballroom.

Then, there's the double booked and borrowed/rented additional gear you need to bring in to supplement your inventory from time to time - could be a follow spot, generator, popcorn machine - who knows.

My point is I'm setting up with hand trucks, carts and doing less with casters on the racks.  For events that have good access, casters on racks and speakers is a good way to go, lay them on their side in the truck.  But for other conditions, other solutions can be optimal.

Then, you have scenario of a bunch of stuff piled onto a cart and run into the two steps at the door - again, it boils down to where one is planning on doing the majority of the work.  For me in the past, in most cases casters on racks worked out well.  For a small PA I built for neighborhood association meetings I use a 50" long cart with 8" wheels under it.  Why?  The whole system fits on the cart, and concrete walkways the 100' of so into the room from truck.  Load cart up, strap it down, lock up truck and walk to room in one trip.

No argument on any system of movement - I keep them all in my bag of tricks.  The DJ system desk is a fold up type ADJ systems.  To save setup and teardown time, I am putting it together and pop riveting it permanently and will move it in and out fully assembled - for that the cart is the way to go for me on that job.

The flat cart I use is steel.  Modified for my use in my shop.  IO carpeted, changed 4Ē to 8Ē wheels (2 fixed, 2 swivel) and D rings down the sides & ends to attach web straps to that store wrapped around the handle,

Also of consideration, as has been mention is available space in truck/trailer.

So many things to think about.  :)
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2019, 09:15:01 am »

Why spend money on "specialized" audio carts. Home depot has 140 choices including "Magliner", and they'll match the lowest price with free delivery most of the time.

 https://www.homedepot.com/b/Storage-Organization-Moving-Supplies-Hand-Trucks/N-5yc1vZchn9

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Re: Rock-N-Roller carts
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2019, 10:39:06 am »

Why spend money on "specialized" audio carts. Home depot has 140 choices including "Magliner", and they'll match the lowest price with free delivery most of the time.

 https://www.homedepot.com/b/Storage-Organization-Moving-Supplies-Hand-Trucks/N-5yc1vZchn9

Heh, instantly spotted the Costco one we've been using for years (except we got ours before they went to solid "flat free" tires, guess there was a recall issue with the tires on mine but never had an issue) https://www.homedepot.com/p/Cosco-1000-lb-3-In-1-Aluminum-Assisted-Hand-Truck-with-Flat-Free-Wheels-12312ABL1E/205035247

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2019, 09:16:36 pm »

How can you beat a cart like that for $150??
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2019, 09:25:56 pm »

A 24" x 48" garden wagon with drop-down/removeable sides (to make a flatbed) can work well over grass and gravel.  It has a relatively high center of gravity, however.
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2019, 02:54:47 pm »

They were $99 at Costco when first released. I've had mine for 8 years now.

How can you beat a cart like that for $150??
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2019, 04:38:47 pm »

I picked one of these up for the $50 the other day...has worked really well given the 5" casters it comes with. It's a lot more stable than those dolly carts tend to be.

https://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/660-lb-fold-down-platform-cart/A-p8769655e
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