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[Andre Vare]

This is from an event management perspective.

Watching the Acosta video, a question arose in my head.  Would it not have been more efficient to first mute the microphone?

Of course I know enough to know that I do not know whole story of what happened behind the curtain.

Andre

[Art Welter]

This is from an event management perspective.

Watching the Acosta video, a question arose in my head.  Would it not have been more efficient to first mute the microphone?

Andre,

Efficient?

Muting the reporter's mic in the house PA would require an "executive" or "editorial" decision on the part of a White House Communications Agency (WHCA) employee, probably not part of the WHCA PA operator job description.

Muting the mic in the PA would have only antagonized the reporters in the room more than already occurred, and would not mute their live microphone and video camera output, making the situation appear even worse on live media.

From an event management perspective, the episode appeared to be "business as usual" for the current administration, more fodder for talk shows and SNL.

Art

[Stephen Beatty]

And you would't want to be part of a law suite....

[David Allred]

From an event management perspective, the episode appeared to be "business as usual" for the current administration, more fodder for talk shows and SNL.

Art

In prison, if one arrogant bully has a problem with another arrogant bully, the result is usually decisive.  In a "civilized" encounter,  if one arrogant bully has a problem with another arrogant bully, the result is (by definition) "a confrontation amongst two or more parties in which no participant can proceed or retreat without being exposed to danger. As a result, all participants need to maintain the strategic tension, which remains unresolved until some outside event makes it possible to resolve it."

[Tim McCulloch]

In prison, if one arrogant bully has a problem with another arrogant bully, the result is usually decisive.  In a "civilized" encounter,  if one arrogant bully has a problem with another arrogant bully, the result is (by definition) "a confrontation amongst two or more parties in which no participant can proceed or retreat without being exposed to danger. As a result, all participants need to maintain the strategic tension, which remains unresolved until some outside event makes it possible to resolve it."

And if one of those prison bullies is the warden or one of his minion, the outcome will not be a happy one.

"What we have here, is a failure to co-mun-i-cate."

[Chris Hindle]

In prison, if one arrogant bully has a problem with another arrogant bully, the result is usually decisive.  In a "civilized" encounter,  if one arrogant bully has a problem with another arrogant bully, the result is (by definition) "a confrontation amongst two or more parties in which no participant can proceed or retreat without being exposed to danger. As a result, all participants need to maintain the strategic tension, which remains unresolved until some outside event makes it possible to resolve it."

I agree. Put the Big T in Jail for a weekend.....
Decisive indeed.....
Chris.

[David Allred]

I agree. Put the Big T in Jail for a weekend.....
Decisive indeed.....
Chris.

Not Acosta for sexually acostaing that intern?  Isn't that what it is when a man touches a woman without an invitation?
Oops! Might get locked.

[Tim McCulloch]

Not Acosta for sexually acostaing that intern?  Isn't that what it is when a man touches a woman without an invitation?
Oops! Might get locked.

If the only video of the incident you watched was the doctored clip proffered by the White House Propaganda Minister, you'd think that.

There's another video up, done by an IT professional, who demonstrates exactly how the original and innocuous clip was altered.

[John Roberts {JR}]

I watched it in real time... While the physical contact was well short of battery, I recall a similar hyperbolic extrapolation about casual contact during the campaign, so spin bait.

Yes, a mic mute button on the podium would elegantly help maintain control of the room (I have made that exact suggestion elsewhere). Since this was surely a politically motivated incident, this thread is likely to get locked.

JR 

[John L Nobile]

He said I'm sorry Ma'am right after the touch. Guys that do that intentionally don't apologize till it's been dragged through the press and their careers are jeopardized.

[Jeff Bankston]

And you would't want to be part of a law suite....

A friend of mine is a lawyer and wears his law suite m-f. It's a cool looking dark blue law suite. I want a law suite like his but he say I not worthy to wear one. I guess I just stick to my old zoot suite.

[Jeff Bankston]

And if one of those prison bullies is the warden or one of his minion, the outcome will not be a happy one.

"What we have here, is a failure to co-mun-i-cate."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8kFKMjTFBs

[Jeff Bankston]

Only Mike Crophone can mute that mic. Paging Mike Crophone. Will Mike Crophone please come to the suite press room. We have a steamy situation right now. lol !

[David Allred]

If the only video of the incident you watched was the doctored clip proffered by the White House Propaganda Minister, you'd think that.

There's another video up, done by an IT professional, who demonstrates exactly how the original and innocuous clip was altered.

Not my intent.  I was referring  to a man  touching a woman on the elbow, saying " excuse me miss" and getting accused of assault.  Just the direction things are going in our fine country I guess.  Everyone is hyper-sensitive and needs to calm down.

[John Roberts {JR}]

Not my intent.  I was referring  to a man  touching a woman on the elbow, saying " excuse me miss" and getting accused of assault.  Just the direction things are going in our fine country I guess.  Everyone is hyper-sensitive and needs to calm down.

But that isn't even the issue, it was refusing to yield the microphone after his line of argument was cut off by the podium.

[edit- apparently the incidental physical contact has become a rationale (excuse). /edit]

JR

[Stephen Swaffer]

There is quite a lot of ground between being a courteous gentleman and assaulting someone.  I wasn't there, so I have no idea if it crossed the line to assault-but we would all be better off if the standard we strove for was to be respectful gentlemen or women when disagreements arose not just stop short of assaulting someone. Best to learn from this and move on.

[Jonathan Johnson]

A friend of mine is a lawyer and wears his law suite m-f. It's a cool looking dark blue law suite. I want a law suite like his but he say I not worthy to wear one. I guess I just stick to my old zoot suite.

I always thought the law suite was the judge's chambers.

[Jeff Bankston]

I always thought the law suite was the judge's chambers.

Soooooot not sweet ! I live at sweet 5 !

[John Roberts {JR}]

There is quite a lot of ground between being a courteous gentleman and assaulting someone.  I wasn't there, so I have no idea if it crossed the line to assault-but we would all be better off if the standard we strove for was to be respectful gentlemen or women when disagreements arose not just stop short of assaulting someone. Best to learn from this and move on.

He did not assault her.... I saw the press conference.

Likewise he did not show her respect either. She wanted him to give her the microphone and he refused that, pushing her arm away when she tried to take it (her job). That was short of battery, but far from being a courteous gentleman.

It looks like they will write up expected rules for behavior that we can argue about another time.

JR

[frank kayser]

Andre,

Efficient?

Muting the reporter's mic in the house PA would require an "executive" or "editorial" decision on the part of a White House Communications Agency (WHCA) employee, probably not part of the WHCA PA operator job description.

Muting the mic in the PA would have only antagonized the reporters in the room more than already occurred, and would not mute their live microphone and video camera output, making the situation appear even worse on live media.

From an event management perspective, the episode appeared to be "business as usual" for the current administration, more fodder for talk shows and SNL.

Art

Good answers, Art.  I asked myself the same thing, and now I know.  Had the mic been muted, it would have looked as awkward as when the intern attempted to retrieve the mic.


All so f*ing silly.

[John Roberts {JR}]

Good answers, Art.  I asked myself the same thing, and now I know.  Had the mic been muted, it would have looked as awkward as when the intern attempted to retrieve the mic.


All so f*ing silly.

I didn't suggest leaving it to a sound tech, but wire a kill button to the podium so the floor mics could be muted from the podium.  easy-peasy...

JR 

[frank kayser]

I didn't suggest leaving it to a sound tech, but wire a kill button to the podium so the floor mics could be muted from the podium.  easy-peasy...

JR

Yeah, that would be the right idea for the room mic mute,  but then someone pointed out the on-camera mics would still be live.  I like his idea of just walking out and letting the chips fall where they may...


Much ado about nuthin'.  Move along, folks.  Nothing to see here.

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