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John L Nobile

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Network cable for audio
« on: November 01, 2018, 05:40:13 pm »

I'm looking at getting a DL32 on stage to connect to  FOH and monitor X32's. It's an install so I don't need the expensive rugged cable. Been thinking of just rolling my own but came across this on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Snagless-Shielded-Ethernet/dp/B00BIOQ9YS?th=1

I like the shielding and it's Cat6a. I can put ethercon ends on it and should be good to go. Only problem I can see is that it's 26 AWG. I'm just not sure the guage matters.


Thoughts?

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Re: Network cable for audio
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 06:04:16 pm »

I'm looking at getting a DL32 on stage to connect to  FOH and monitor X32's. It's an install so I don't need the expensive rugged cable. Been thinking of just rolling my own but came across this on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Snagless-Shielded-Ethernet/dp/B00BIOQ9YS?th=1

I like the shielding and it's Cat6a. I can put ethercon ends on it and should be good to go. Only problem I can see is that it's 26 AWG. I'm just not sure the guage matters.


Thoughts?

Ordinarily I would say that I think you'd be fine, but I think I bought that exact cable this summer and it failed the pass/fail tests on my Byte Brothers Cable Certifier (which really doesn't certify cables but does measure things better than other measuring devices). Amazon took it back, and I used something else.

I bought this stuff , but the 200' wasn't available at the time and I got the 150'; several of them, and all passed.

It's rugged and stiff but worked.
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Scott Helmke

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Re: Network cable for audio
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 06:27:18 pm »

X32/M32 - I believe you need not only shielded, but Ethercon as well to avoid problems. 
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Re: Network cable for audio
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 06:57:54 pm »

X32/M32 - I believe you need not only shielded, but Ethercon as well to avoid problems.

Yes, just as he said.
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John L Nobile

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Re: Network cable for audio
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 11:12:54 pm »

X32/M32 - I believe you need not only shielded, but Ethercon as well to avoid problems.

Isn't Ethercon just the name of the connector? It's a sleeve that goes over a normal RJ45 shielded connector.
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Re: Network cable for audio
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2018, 12:05:10 am »

Isn't Ethercon just the name of the connector? It's a sleeve that goes over a normal RJ45 shielded connector.
Yes.

If it's install - West Penn, ICE, Belden install cable, Cat5e shielded, Ethercon connectors.  A 500' spool of the above doesn't cost much, and Cat5e isn't hard to terminate.  Solid core from tech plate to tech plate (or punch downs), stranded to the devices.  Keep continuity from chassis to chassis.  Especially in cold or dry climates where static electricity builds up.

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Re: Network cable for audio
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2018, 12:09:57 am »

Isn't Ethercon just the name of the connector? It's a sleeve that goes over a normal RJ45 shielded connector.

Yes. There are two primary models for this application:
NE8MC for pre-terminated cables
NE8MC-1 for cables to be terminated after the Ethercon boots are installed

The only difference is the boot.
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Re: Network cable for audio
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2018, 10:03:40 am »

Isn't Ethercon just the name of the connector? It's a sleeve that goes over a normal RJ45 shielded connector.

Yes.  It also provides a bit of shielding.
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Re: Network cable for audio
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2018, 11:22:32 am »

NE8MC for pre-terminated cables


I had no idea these were available!
Thanks :)
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Re: Network cable for audio
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2018, 11:49:44 am »

Only problem I can see is that it's 26 AWG. I'm just not sure the guage matters.


Thoughts?

For signal cable, the smaller gauge shouldn't matter.  Where it does matter is if you are using ethernet and POE connections. Then the small wire can cause you some issues.

If the wire is completely contained and never moves, you can get away with a lot lesser cable and have it work.  One of the big issues I've seen with AES50 is that any movement of conductors inside of the cable can cause it to freak out.  ie, if someone steps on a cable, you'll hear a pop.  As long as your cable will never be abused like that, then you should be ok.

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