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Michael Lascuola

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Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« on: October 06, 2018, 04:12:15 pm »

Anybody know what these vocal mics are in this video?  Kudos to the NPR folks for a sweet mix, IMO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDksWTzZQ2c
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2018, 06:01:31 pm »

Anybody know what these vocal mics are in this video?  Kudos to the NPR folks for a sweet mix, IMO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDksWTzZQ2c

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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2018, 10:07:03 pm »

Anybody know what these vocal mics are in this video?  Kudos to the NPR folks for a sweet mix, IMO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDksWTzZQ2c

It seems to be quite a fat mic. The XLR body looks small compared to the mic body. It might be a Sennheiser MKH-60. There are no good shots of it.

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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2018, 11:23:42 pm »

They appear to be NPR's microphones as they appear in some of the other TDC videos.  There are some that show the mic without a wind screen.  I can't tell but. this video seems to feature them  with out the wind screens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLRxO9AmNNo
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2018, 11:27:04 pm »

Hi,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e07bI5rz6FY

He mentions the Sennheiser 418s, a stereo mic, the mono version would be a 416. My thought is that he's using an isolation mount that makes it appear fatter.
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2018, 01:57:43 pm »

The part you're seeing looks like a shockmount clip from an ENG kit.
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2018, 07:30:43 pm »

No idea on Th mics but am so grooving on TOP!   Awesome
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2018, 07:47:20 pm »

It seems to be quite a fat mic. The XLR body looks small compared to the mic body. It might be a Sennheiser MKH-60. There are no good shots of it.

Mac

I think this is a good guess.

All i could think was the look on the audio guy's face when they said they were doing TOP at the Tiny Desk.  With multiple vocal mics.  "Are you kidding? Tower of Power? That's gonna be Crazy Loud.  The only way that would EVER work is if we used freakin' SHOTGUN mics for the Vocals..."    ;D
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2018, 03:58:54 pm »

I think this is a good guess.

All i could think was the look on the audio guy's face when they said they were doing TOP at the Tiny Desk.  With multiple vocal mics.  "Are you kidding? Tower of Power? That's gonna be Crazy Loud.  The only way that would EVER work is if we used freakin' SHOTGUN mics for the Vocals..."    ;D
But you can see that they're not that loud.  Only Doc has a mic on his bari.  Everyone else is just playing into the room.  Gotta be some nice stereo mic on the desk somewhere picking up the horns because they sound pretty present.  DG is using rods and I'll bet Jerry and Marc are either direct or very small amps down on the floor.  Lot of folks to cram in there, along with Roger's chop and Leslie.  But none of them have anything to prove or egos that need to be loud.
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2018, 04:25:46 pm »

But you can see that they're not that loud....


Oh, i didn't think that there were necessarily the typical stage volume ego trip things happening here.  These guys are the very definition of Pros after all.  But even played "quietly" horns are loud.  Especially when they are played 3 feet away from a vocal mic.

I'm pretty impressed at what they were able to achieve.  It sounds great!
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2018, 06:29:22 pm »

Oh, i didn't think that there were necessarily the typical stage volume ego trip things happening here.  These guys are the very definition of Pros after all.  But even played "quietly" horns are loud.  Especially when they are played 3 feet away from a vocal mic.

I'm pretty impressed at what they were able to achieve.  It sounds great!
I was thinking that's why they put the singer up so high.
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2018, 07:33:49 pm »

Welcome to the way radio was done a Long Time Ago.  Today we have more mics and lots of processing but are broadcasting horn bands from an office instead of a studio.
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2018, 07:37:57 pm »

Hi,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e07bI5rz6FY

He mentions the Sennheiser 418s, a stereo mic, the mono version would be a 416. My thought is that he's using an isolation mount that makes it appear fatter.

In this link he lists the Sennheiser 416 in his travel kit. He does a great job on every tiny desk video I have heard.

https://training.npr.org/blog/whats-in-your-bag-josh-rogosin/
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2018, 01:29:32 am »

Oh, i didn't think that there were necessarily the typical stage volume ego trip things happening here.  These guys are the very definition of Pros after all.  But even played "quietly" horns are loud.  Especially when they are played 3 feet away from a vocal mic.

I'm pretty impressed at what they were able to achieve.  It sounds great!
The guys are holding back ALOT. I can tell just by the intensity and articulation they aren't playing anywhere near full out. You can also tell because Adolfo's face isn't turning red when he plays. I've been watching Adolfo play for over 20 years, since he was still in the Maynard Ferguson band. He's a screamer.


I'm not a pro saxophone play by any means, but even I can keep up with a Marshall half stack on my tenor, without a mic. I've done it before. It's all a matter of how much air you put through the horn and what your mouthpiece/reed combination is.
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2018, 09:07:16 am »

The guys are holding back ALOT. I can tell just by the intensity and articulation they aren't playing anywhere near full out. You can also tell because Adolfo's face isn't turning red when he plays. I've been watching Adolfo play for over 20 years, since he was still in the Maynard Ferguson band. He's a screamer.


I'm not a pro saxophone play by any means, but even I can keep up with a Marshall half stack on my tenor, without a mic. I've done it before. It's all a matter of how much air you put through the horn and what your mouthpiece/reed combination is.
True that, if the director isn't telling the sax line to tone it back, you're not playing the chart right XD
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Re: Vocal mics on Tower of Power NPR Tiny Desk concert
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2018, 12:26:11 am »

The guys are holding back ALOT. I can tell just by the intensity and articulation they aren't playing anywhere near full out. You can also tell because Adolfo's face isn't turning red when he plays. I've been watching Adolfo play for over 20 years, since he was still in the Maynard Ferguson band. He's a screamer.


I'm not a pro saxophone play by any means, but even I can keep up with a Marshall half stack on my tenor, without a mic. I've done it before. It's all a matter of how much air you put through the horn and what your mouthpiece/reed combination is.
I've actually played with Tom a number of times, and he can play really powerfully.  Used to do the 2nd sax part on Pick Up The Pieces on guitar together with him and he can convey phrasing with his eyes like nobody else I've played with.  Also no problem hearing him when he turns away from the mic   ;D
Great players have control and can produce at many dynamic levels.  DG can play in your living room, and then turn around and do a festival stage.
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