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Riley Casey

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Re: Behringer XR18 with X-Touch compact controller, any experience?
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2020, 11:25:20 am »

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Dan Abushanab

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Re: Behringer XR18 with X-Touch compact controller, any experience?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2020, 06:14:07 pm »

With the help of Riley, Kevin, and all the other nice people on this board I have been able to get the XTC programmed and controlling the XR-18!  I'll document for others while this is all fresh in my mind.

Hi, I'm also looking for the program/settings to control the XR-18 with an X-Touch Compact...

First, as Kevin mentioned, the XR-18 is pretty limited in what it can do from a MIDI perspective.  It basically just sends and receives on channels 1, 2, and 3, using MIDI Continuous Controller (CC) values 0-31.  Generally speaking Channel 1 is for setting levels (0-127), Channel 2 is for muting/unmuting, and Channel 3 is for panning.  The one more advanced thing it can do is use Program Change (Prg Chg) on Channel 1 to recall snapshots 1-64 stored in the mixer.

There's an A and a B layer that you can program separately, but I was able to get everything I wanted to do on one layer so I just programmed them both the same.

To program:  Run the X-Touch program on a PC, then load a .bin file if you have one you want to use.  The one I'm using is here - https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApLgfvqKKgvyhOoGAY_BokzHxXLEIg?e=F1bbmC

  • Connect the USB cable between the XTC and your laptop, and disconnect the midi cables between the XTC and the XR-18.
  • Load in the .bin file
  • Make sure the global channel is set to off
  • Dump it to the XTC (Layer A or B or both)
  • Disconnect the USB cable
  • Re-connect the MIDI cables

Make sure the XR-18 is set to TX and RX MIDI on the DIN option, and you should be good to go.

My program is set as follows:

Inputs:

1-8 on the faders and inputs 9-16 on encoders 9-16.  There are mute buttons under each fader for channels 1-8, and mute buttons for channels 9-16 by pushing the encoder knob itself.

Aux input 17-18 is on encoders 7 and 8 (twinned)

Outputs:
The main out is on the main fader, with the mute below it.
Aux outputs 1-6 are on encoders 1-6, with mutes using the buttons directly below.

The one thing I still have to try is recalling a snapshot to "sync" all the XTC controls to the mixer.  The way it is now you have to touch a control knob or fader to get it and the XR-18 in sync.  But I think I'll be able to hit one currently-unused button on the XTC to recall a snapshot and then have everything lined up as a result.
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Kevin Maxwell

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Re: Behringer XR18 with X-Touch compact controller, any experience?
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2020, 09:48:22 am »

How about the setting for the Global CH in X-Touch edit?
 
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Re: Behringer XR18 with X-Touch compact controller, any experience?
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2020, 01:55:33 pm »

Modified my write up above to cover this - I set the global channel to off.
How about the setting for the Global CH in X-Touch edit?
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Re: Behringer XR18 with X-Touch compact controller, any experience?
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2020, 03:10:32 pm »

This isn't helpful at all in getting the Compact to work well.  But, I just thought I'd mention that I have a standard X-Touch and have it set up with a WiFi dongle which connects to my home or show network and it works pretty darn well with either the XR18 or M32C that I use.  Much less headache than all this. 
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Re: Behringer XR18 with X-Touch compact controller, any experience?
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2020, 03:20:42 pm »

This isn't helpful at all in getting the Compact to work well.  But, I just thought I'd mention that I have a standard X-Touch and have it set up with a WiFi dongle which connects to my home or show network and it works pretty darn well with either the XR18 or M32C that I use.  Much less headache than all this.

Yeah, the standard X-Touch is plug and play for any XR18 or X/M32 applications. There are even overlays available online to show you what all the controls are mapped to. The compact [and mini] are categorically NOT. Which is kinda super frustrating, but there it is.
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Re: Behringer XR18 with X-Touch compact controller, any experience?
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2020, 03:24:58 pm »

This isn't helpful at all in getting the Compact to work well.  But, I just thought I'd mention that I have a standard X-Touch and have it set up with a WiFi dongle which connects to my home or show network and it works pretty darn well with either the XR18 or M32C that I use.  Much less headache than all this.
Yup, the Compact is being asked to do things outside its ecosystem.  The kludge seems to work.

I'm not sure how expensive the Compact has gotten, but the I paid about half the current rate for my X-Touch 2 years ago.
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Re: Behringer XR18 with X-Touch compact controller, any experience?
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2020, 05:03:44 am »

Yeah, the standard X-Touch is plug and play for any XR18 or X/M32 applications.


It probably is now. When I got mine I had to download the firmware to allow it to control mixers as it was originally just a DAW controller.




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Re: Behringer XR18 with X-Touch compact controller, any experience?
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2020, 05:36:43 pm »


It probably is now. When I got mine I had to download the firmware to allow it to control mixers as it was originally just a DAW controller.




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True. You do need the latest firmware.
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