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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2018, 11:21:56 pm »

Guys, just place a pair of these
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/a-1031-u
flat on the floor at either side of the pulpit, up to 30' apart for diversity A&B, and connect them to your rig via low-loss cables such as 9913F7 or LMR-400, up to 100' long. Simple, rock solid RX, and invisible. Gaff taped to the floor or under a rug or carpet work fine. Even under nonmetallic set pieces, stairs, or risers works brilliantly.

If you doubt it, know that every Tonight Show done outside of 30 Rock for the last 4 years has used this method, under my direction. Even live to air from the Super Bowl. Twice. It works.

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This is going in my trick box.
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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2018, 11:42:01 pm »

This is going in my trick box.


Just be mindful of their donut pattern in vertical orientation, which becomes a figure-8 when placed horizontally on the floor. You'll be surprised by their range perpendicular to their axis.

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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2018, 11:44:08 pm »

RF Venue has a floor pad antenna call the RF Spotlight.
Never used one but it looks interesting.

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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2018, 11:47:00 pm »

RF Venue has a floor pad antenna call the RF Spotlight.
Never used one but it looks interesting.
It's a great low-gain antenna with a hemispherical pattern, and works wonderfully for its designed application. However, it's pricey.

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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2018, 07:31:17 am »

RF Venue has a floor pad antenna call the RF Spotlight.
Never used one but it looks interesting.
I've used them for both Tx and Rx. They're great when you want / need to localize things. For example I've used them successfully a couple of times for the IEM Tx for the live band segment of the NHL outdoor hockey games I've done. My reasoning was this: In a coordination of up to 300 frequencies, why would I want to be spraying 8-16 fairly strong Tx all over the venue for one 20 minute segment? Sightlines are also a big issue on that gig because the stage is a flat deck between the stands and the rink.
On both occasions the band was Bryan Adams. On the first one they said it worked fine for the performance but things were a bit iffy in the offstage area. On the second one, I added a local whip to the monitor position which took care of that. First show, the mat was just on the deck, downstage center-ish, the 2nd one, the monitor tech put it under the deck and that worked fine too.
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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2018, 09:09:57 am »

....just place a pair of these
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/a-1031-u
flat on the floor at either side...

Is there a Shure equivalent or does it matter?
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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2018, 09:24:49 am »

Is there a Shure equivalent or does it matter?

Shure UA860 and  Lectrosonics SNA600A (my always bu antenna) would react the same

Strange how often I see the UA860 pointed top to the stage
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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2018, 12:21:43 pm »

Shure UA860 and  Lectrosonics SNA600A (my always bu antenna) would react the same

Strange how often I see the UA860 pointed top to the stage
I'm using a couple of pairs of those too!
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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2018, 01:36:10 pm »

Guys, just place a pair of these
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/a-1031-u
flat on the floor at either side of the pulpit, up to 30' apart for diversity A&B, and connect them to your rig via low-loss cables such as 9913F7 or LMR-400, up to 100' long. Simple, rock solid RX, and invisible. Gaff taped to the floor or under a rug or carpet work fine. Even under nonmetallic set pieces, stairs, or risers works brilliantly.

If you doubt it, know that every Tonight Show done outside of 30 Rock for the last 4 years has used this method, under my direction. Even live to air from the Super Bowl. Twice. It works.

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Sadly wedding planners are allergic to cables of any kind getting near their wedding altars. Before I went full wireless, I tried to put a small rack of rx's (powered with a portable power bank directly with DC) off to the side and then just run mic cable back to my FOH station, but even that amount of cabling often won't work (both visually and for time constraints).

Wedding venues that aren't hotels are often small and have limited load in that has to be time coordinated with floral and catering ALWAYS getting priority.  I'm usually given almost an hour to set up the PA, do a basic frequency coord, ring out feedback, and soundcheck before guests arrive and 15-20 minutes to break down (the latter being the more difficult constraint) to be out of the way for cocktail hour.  So what I've done is inboarded absolutely everything and gone to IEM tx + IEM rx and battery powered speaker for PA.  15-20 minutes up and 5-10 minutes down. 

Ultimately all wedding planners know is that their Bluetooth Bose Soundbox works wirelessly and can set up in 15 seconds with no wires, so there's no reason a professional like me can't get the same done in an hour. 
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Re: Paddle Antennas
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2018, 06:21:47 pm »

Sadly wedding planners are allergic to cables of any kind getting near their wedding altars. Before I went full wireless, I tried to put a small rack of rx's (powered with a portable power bank directly with DC) off to the side and then just run mic cable back to my FOH station, but even that amount of cabling often won't work (both visually and for time constraints).

Wedding venues that aren't hotels are often small and have limited load in that has to be time coordinated with floral and catering ALWAYS getting priority.  I'm usually given almost an hour to set up the PA, do a basic frequency coord, ring out feedback, and soundcheck before guests arrive and 15-20 minutes to break down (the latter being the more difficult constraint) to be out of the way for cocktail hour.  So what I've done is inboarded absolutely everything and gone to IEM tx + IEM rx and battery powered speaker for PA.  15-20 minutes up and 5-10 minutes down. 

Ultimately all wedding planners know is that their Bluetooth Bose Soundbox works wirelessly and can set up in 15 seconds with no wires, so there's no reason a professional like me can't get the same done in an hour.

The use of anything with a wire or cord makes you look like a caveman soundman in their eyes.

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Re: Paddle Antennas
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